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Frederick Wentworth Gould, b.1848 in St John's Wood Middlesex was not at home with his widowed mum Ann Gould (b 1821 Woodmansterne,Surrey) and older brother Edward Wentworth Gould (b. 1846 Blackfriars). In 1871, the family was all together again at The Duke's Head, Reeves Mews, St George's Hanover Square, where big brother Edward was a Licensed Victualler, mum had married John Rayson and Frederick now aged 22 was a compositor. Surely Frederick was too young to be out on his own at age 12 in 1861. But where did he go?

was this from 1837Online's version of 1861 census ? search again without surname, just age and place of birth..... you could even try occupation 'scholar'. He may have been with relations... did the image support the transcription info ?

Yes - it was the 1837 census, and the image checked out -there were two other children in the household, but each was a 'nurse child' - I guess mum was acting as the 1861 version of a child care centre to eke out the shillings. I tried searching for Fred without using the name but nothing came up that looked likely. Can always try again, I guess.

Re-Fredrick. There was no compusery schooling at that time,he could have been an apprentice somwhere and would prob lived in,1861 alot were working by age 11-12,my gtgtgrandad was mine boy age 11,

Yes -I did think that was a possibility Kay - I just don't know where to go looking. What parts of London are not yet covered by 1837Online? (I'm from Oz and don't fully appreciate the geography involved) Between 1861 and 1901, members of Fred's family are found in Greenwich, Westminster,Aylesbury (Bucks.), St Giles and Battersea. Apart from the venture into Bucks., are these London areas near one another? Where might a 12/13 year old boy have been sent, with his mum in Greenwich ?

Kay makes a good point. If he's not with relations, then the only way to search is to assume his name has been mistranscribed and search by age and place of birth - and hope they havent been messed up too. Have you checked any known relatives addresses ? This site will give you a feel for places. http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/places/ Greenwich is south east-ish, on the south bank of the river, with Battersea to the west of Greenwich, much more central but again on the south bank. Westminster is sort of the West End - Houses of Parliament etc, where else - St Giles, pretty much the old square mile centre of the city, Bishops gate. Use www.multimap*co.uk to see central london.