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Richard
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21 Sep 2007 16:27 |
Charles Hopton, my great-grandfather, born 1850 +/- 1.
Have located him in 1891 and 1901. Cannot trace him in any previous census or birth indexes. Very likely to be in St Pancras area of London. (The Charles Hopton living with wife Augusta in 1871 in Pancras is a not him)
Incidently, why is 1881 census not listed under GR Search Records?
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Vera
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21 Sep 2007 16:34 |
Hi, Just showing you the Charles Hopton I have found... 1871 Charles Hopton Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Leghom, Italy Civil Parish: Pulborough Town: Pulborough County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Thakeham Sub-registration district: Pulborough ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hopton 22 Josep King 27 Caroline Scutt 27 Harry Scutt 8 Harry H Scutt 34 John Scutt 5 Thomas W Scutt 2 Regards Vera
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Potty
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21 Sep 2007 16:35 |
Where was Charles born?
1881 is probably not listed because it is free to search on Ancestry and the IGI
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Andrew
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21 Sep 2007 16:39 |
Possible from 1871
1871 England Census about Charles Hopton Name: Charles Hopton Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras Civil Parish: Chiswick Town: Chiswick County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Chiswick ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Mary Griffiths 28 Sarah Hitchcock 22 Charles Hopton 16 George Hopton 48 Georgiana Hopton 18 Andy
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Richard
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21 Sep 2007 16:42 |
Thanks Vera. It's a possibility I suppose, although the birth in Italy makes it unlikely I think.
Potty, what and where is IGI ?
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2007 16:45 |
1881 is free on Ancestry and on www.familysearch.org.
GR don't include it because they can't squeeze money out of you for it
Reg
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2007 16:46 |
Unless you tell us his birthplace (from census info you have found) we cannot hope to find him............
Reg
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Potty
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21 Sep 2007 16:47 |
IGI - International Genealogical Index - it is on the Mormon site (www.familysearch.org), click on advance search, then Census and select England 1881.
You still haven't told us where he was born. Can you post details of what you have found in 1891 or 1901?
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Vera
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21 Sep 2007 16:49 |
Hi Richard,
The I.G.I. is International Genealogical Index on the Familysearch....(Church of the Latterday Saints) At times a very helpful site...but always check what you find.
Regards Vera
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alviegal
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21 Sep 2007 16:49 |
Is this your man? i've found the 1901 when he was a carpenter but not the 1891.
1871
about Charles Hopton Name: Charles Hopton Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras Civil Parish: Chiswick Town: Chiswick County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Chiswick ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Mary Griffiths 28 Cook Sarah Hitchcock 22 Housemaid Charles Hopton 16 son George Hopton 48 widwr b Neath, glamorgan, Beat? Timber manufacturer Georgiana Hopton 18 daughter View Original Record
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Is this your 1901?
about Charles Hopton Name: Charles Hopton Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ady Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: Camden County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Camden Town ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 508 Household Members: Name Age Ady Hopton 30 Charles Hopton 50 Lily Hopton 8 View Original Record
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Richard
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21 Sep 2007 17:13 |
***alviegal***, Yes that's him in 1901,
Ady is my great-grandmother. Lily is his daughter by his previous partner Annie, who he was living with in 1891. I dont think he married either Ady or Annie.
Your 1871 is quite possible, although there is a 4 year age discrepency. The fact that he becomes a carpenter, when his father is a Timber manufacturer, and that his father is George (My grandfather's middle name), adds weight.
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alviegal
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21 Sep 2007 18:06 |
Is this your George in 1891. He is a Carpenter. Birthplace is completely different though.
1891 England Census about Charles Hopton Name: Charles Hopton Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle, Radnorshire, Wales Civil Parish: Tupsley Ecclesiastical parish: Tupsley Town: Hereford County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hereford Sub-registration district: Fownhope ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Hopton 43 Charles Hopton 37 Emily Hopton 12 George Hopton 8 Martha Hopton 2 Ralph Hopton 5 View Original Record
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Marriage for him maybe???
Record Matilda Ann Hergist 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Presteigne (1837-77) Herefordshire, Radnorshire View Record Charles Hopton 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Presteigne (1837-77) Herefordshire, Radnorshire
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