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1851 to 1881 Censuses (sp?) - Charles Hopton plea

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Richard

Richard Report 21 Sep 2007 16:27

Charles Hopton, my great-grandfather, born 1850 +/- 1.

Have located him in 1891 and 1901. Cannot trace him in any previous census or birth indexes. Very likely to be in St Pancras area of London. (The Charles Hopton living with wife Augusta in 1871 in Pancras is a not him)

Incidently, why is 1881 census not listed under GR Search Records?

Thanks

Vera

Vera Report 21 Sep 2007 16:34

Hi,
Just showing you the Charles Hopton I have found...
1871
Charles Hopton
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Leghom, Italy

Civil Parish: Pulborough
Town: Pulborough
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Thakeham
Sub-registration district: Pulborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hopton 22
Josep King 27
Caroline Scutt 27
Harry Scutt 8
Harry H Scutt 34
John Scutt 5
Thomas W Scutt 2


Regards Vera

Potty

Potty Report 21 Sep 2007 16:35

Where was Charles born?

1881 is probably not listed because it is free to search on Ancestry and the IGI

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Sep 2007 16:39

Possible from 1871

1871 England Census
about Charles Hopton
Name: Charles Hopton
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras

Civil Parish: Chiswick
Town: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Griffiths 28
Sarah Hitchcock 22
Charles Hopton 16
George Hopton 48
Georgiana Hopton 18


Andy

Richard

Richard Report 21 Sep 2007 16:42

Thanks Vera. It's a possibility I suppose, although the birth in Italy makes it unlikely I think.

Potty, what and where is IGI ?

Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2007 16:45

1881 is free on Ancestry and on www.familysearch.org.

GR don't include it because they can't squeeze money out of you for it

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2007 16:46

Unless you tell us his birthplace (from census info you have found) we cannot hope to find him............

Reg

Potty

Potty Report 21 Sep 2007 16:47

IGI - International Genealogical Index - it is on the Mormon site (www.familysearch.org), click on advance search, then Census and select England 1881.

You still haven't told us where he was born. Can you post details of what you have found in 1891 or 1901?

Vera

Vera Report 21 Sep 2007 16:49

Hi Richard,

The I.G.I. is International Genealogical Index on the Familysearch....(Church of the Latterday Saints)
At times a very helpful site...but always check what you find.

Regards Vera

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Sep 2007 16:49

Is this your man? i've found the 1901 when he was a carpenter but not the 1891.

1871

about Charles Hopton
Name: Charles Hopton
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras

Civil Parish: Chiswick
Town: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Griffiths 28 Cook
Sarah Hitchcock 22 Housemaid
Charles Hopton 16 son
George Hopton 48 widwr b Neath, glamorgan, Beat? Timber manufacturer
Georgiana Hopton 18 daughter

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Is this your 1901?

about Charles Hopton
Name: Charles Hopton
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ady
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Camden
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 508
Household Members:
Name Age
Ady Hopton 30
Charles Hopton 50
Lily Hopton 8

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Richard

Richard Report 21 Sep 2007 17:13

***alviegal***, Yes that's him in 1901,

Ady is my great-grandmother. Lily is his daughter by his previous partner Annie, who he was living with in 1891. I dont think he married either Ady or Annie.

Your 1871 is quite possible, although there is a 4 year age discrepency. The fact that he becomes a carpenter, when his father is a Timber manufacturer, and that his father is George (My grandfather's middle name), adds weight.

Thanks

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Sep 2007 18:06

Is this your George in 1891. He is a Carpenter. Birthplace is completely different though.

1891 England Census
about Charles Hopton
Name: Charles Hopton
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Radnorshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Tupsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Tupsley
Town: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Fownhope
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Hopton 43
Charles Hopton 37
Emily Hopton 12
George Hopton 8
Martha Hopton 2
Ralph Hopton 5

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Marriage for him maybe???

Record
Matilda Ann Hergist 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Presteigne (1837-77) Herefordshire, Radnorshire
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Charles Hopton 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Presteigne (1837-77) Herefordshire, Radnorshire