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Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
It has always been said that my husbands great grandfather died at the beginning of WW1 before reaching the front line as he drank contaminated water. I have looked on WW1 deaths by surname but nothing appears. Also looked for deaths around area he lived. Could it be possible he was sent to a military hospital where he subsequently died, so area could be anywhere!!
Only info I have is surname of BASS born circa 1880, wifes maiden name Lacey, and he had 3 children born 1904, 1911 & 1913.
Any help would be much appreciated to solve yet another mystery.
Lynn

Hi Lynn,

What were the childrens names.......... hopefully the younger 2 will appear on the 1911 census with their parents and then you'll have a christian name to work with.


Dee x

I found this marriage........... any good???

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bass John Tynemouth 10b 379
Fenwick Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 379
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lacey Lilian Jane Tynemouth 10b 379
Percy David Hume Tynemouth 10b 379



Dee x

Lynn

have you actually checked the records on the CWGC site as there are 124 deaths associated with the Bass name 1914 to 1916.

Have you got a place of birth which may help to find him, or tell us where he lived

Children were John - Born 1904
Jessie - Born 1911
Winifred Born 1913
Sorry haven't got access to 1911 census - I picked up mothers maiden name from Winifred's birth record
Thanks

Hi Lynn,

Using Jessie on the 1911 census;

HOUSEHOLD BASS HENRY M 1907 4 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BASS JOHN M 1905 6 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BASS JOHN M 1876 35 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BASS LILIAN F 1909 2 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BASS LILIAN JANE F 1878 33 Tynemouth Northumberland


Jessie was 2 months.


Dee x

Hi George
Not sure what CWGC site is ! but he was probably born in the North East prob around Tynemouth that is where children's births were registered
First name could be John as this passed down to other generations but just a guess.
Not much help I'm afraid.
Lynn

Lynn............ 1911 is free to search, however you need to buy credits to check out the images.

John was born in seaton............ here he is with his mother;

1901 England Census
about John Bass
Name: John Bass
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Peatom Shure, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Blyth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Blyth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Blyth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Bass 62
John Bass 25
Ethel A Bass 21

Ok............ bit more to go on;

1 results found. You searched for:
First names JOHN
First names Algorithm Exact
Last names BASS
Last names Algorithm Exact
Birth Year 1876
Occupation CLERK
Birth Place SEATON
County Northumberland
District Tynemouth
Other person last names BASS
Other person last names Algorithm Exact
Other person first names JESSIE
Other person first names Algorithm Exact



Dee x

Hi Dee
How do I know which relates to 'my family' - or are you saying they all lived at one address ? - never heard mention of siblings called Henry or Lilian
Also the marriage records don't quite tie in - or is it me being dense ;)

Hi Lynn,

The only 100% positive way to find out would be to buy Winifreds birth cert........ however seeing that these names come up with Jessie on a free search we know that 2 off the children are correct and the parents marriage Bass and Lacy tie in.

I'll see what I can find out about Lilian and Henry.

Dee x

Checking again on the 1911 census, using Lilian Jane bass as reference........ Lilian born 1909 and Henry still come up with them, and they come up as son and daughter!!???

I think the only way to know for sure would be to look at the census return itself. Here's the Url;

http://www.1911census.co.uk/



Dee x

I have looked on the Cwgc site now for a John Bass, betwen 1914 and 1916, but nothing comes up with any clue linking to your John Bass.

Lynn for your info here is the link to the CWGC site

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp

George

This death would tie in???

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Sep 1933 (21%)
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Bass John 58 Tynemouth 10b 312



Dee x

Thanks you guys - still baffled how you come up with answers so quickly !! It takes me hours (literally ) to look up and find correct entries.
I get so bored looking for one person I keep swapping to different family members.
My husbands family are almost a complete mystery - at least I am off work for the next 6 weeks of school hols so have plenty of time to waste !!

Dear SHRat
Oh Thank you so much this must be him, so much for family stories - perhaps the other story was abit more dramatic !!
No mention was ever made of 3 other siblings (even when Jesiie & Winifred died intestate they didn't show on the family tree !!) I will search and see if I can find deaths for them.
Thanks again for you prompt help - now to start again on the other side of husbands family.

Hi Lynn,

Margarets birth??


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1918 (98%)
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Bass Margaret L___y Tynemouth 10b 952

Looks possible;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Henry Bass
Name: Henry Bass
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1993
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Register number: 38
District and Subdistrict: 7332
Entry number: 134



Dee x

Dear SHRat
As I am actually not one for history I will leave that one for my husband and daughter ;). they will probably be most interested.
Thanks again for you help - I could never have found this info without you.
Lynn