Genealogy Chat

Louise, Yes, I have Francis on every census he was around for. He lived with his parents until he got married. Then with his wife and kids until 1901. I'll have to wait a few years to see if he makes the 1911. He doesn't appear to have travelled far. I'll have a look at those entries for Elizabeth though. Thanks for the look. Was Julia there? If not I wonder where she went? Toni

I can't access the full census, but; on 1861 there's Elizabeth Walmsley abt 1838 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Newcastle under Lyme Staffordshire 1871: Elizabeth Walmesley abt 1834 location, Staffordshire, England relationship city Staffordshire 1881: Julia Riley abt 1880 Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Lodger Biddulph Staffordshire Peter Riley abt 1857 Galway, Ireland Lodger Biddulph Staffordshire Sarah Riley abt 1857 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Biddulph Staffordshire ***Elizabeth Walmsley abt 1835 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Head Biddulph Staffordshire Elizabeth Walmsley abt 1872 Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Daughter Biddulph Staffordshire Emma Walmsley abt 1874 Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Daughter Biddulph Staffordshire James Walmsley abt 1876 Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Son Biddulph Staffordshire Joseph Walmsley abt 1860 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Son Biddulph Staffordshire Thomas Walmsley abt 1863 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Son Biddulph Staffordshire Thomas Wilding abt 1841 Galway, Ireland Lodger Biddulph Staffordshire

do you have Francis on 1861/1871? or Elizabeth on 1901/1891/1881?

Sorry I disappeared. Hubby cooked dinner. Julia married Francis Simpson and I have census entries for them from 1881 through to 1901. I've been searching for Walmsley and tried Wolmsley and have had a quick look at all W's. I've even tried it starting with M incase it was written or transcribed badly. She has to be there I just can't figure out the name. Toni

Just a thought....following on from the marriage details above, there's this death: Name: George Fox Birth Date: abt 1826 Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 46 District: Stafford County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 5 Could it be that 20-year old Julia married 46- year old George Fox who died within a few months of the marriage? Maybe she simply continued to live under her maiden name for convenience.

so, what name have you been lookng at in the later census - julia who?

I haven't posted this before so I don't know if the mother marrying later is correct. If someone remembers the case I'd love to hear from them. I haven't got around to ordering the cert yet. I'm on a budget. I didn't think I'd have so much trouble finding her on the census. If the senario above is correct the birth cert wont help. Toni

Her marriage record suggests that Walmsley was her maiden name. Name: Julia Ann H Walmsley Year of Registration: 1871 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Stoke Upon Trent County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 354 Only four people appear on that page.... George Fox Margaret Neale Francis Simpson Julia Ann H Walmsley So she would have become either a Fox or a Simpson.

have we looked for this before, or least least people of that name - ?? Did her mother marry after her birth maybe and for census purpose maybe she was raised in her step fathers name until it came to official things like marriage

This looks like her birth reference if you want to order the cert, Births Dec 1852 Walmsley Julia Ann Newcastle L 6b 43 From the IGI... JULIA ANN WALMSLEY Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 OCT 1852 Newcastle Under Lyme, Stafford, England Parents: Mother: ELIZABETH WALMSLEY Georgina.

Hello, I'm trying to find my x-great grandma in the 1861 or 71 census and am failing miserably. Could someone please help me find her or give ideas for typos that I can search for? Her name is Julia Ann H Walmsley and she was born in 1852 in Newcastle-under-lyme, Staffordshire and she married in late 1871 in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire. Her mothers name is Elizabeth and I suspect she was unmarried. I don't have Julia's birth cert. I can find her in every census from 1881 on in her married name. The census just says Newcastle, Staffordshire. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Toni