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Have found wifes G/ grandfather George Hartley c1860 in the 1901 census . This gives his details as head of family,age 41 yrs, born Glossop Derbyshire. I cannot find any trace of him in any of the earlier census records. Can anyone out there help me out and point me in the right direction Many thanks, Matt

1901 for reference rg13/4624/6/3 Living 28 ?Skinner Street? Stockton on Tees Isabella Duncan abt 1882 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Niece Stockton on Tees Durham Ethel Forsyth abt 1883 Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England Visitor Stockton on Tees Durham Annie Hartley abt 1894 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Stockton on Tees Durham Eleanor Hartley abt 1865 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Wife Stockton on Tees Durham Florrie Hartley abt 1899 Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England Daughter Stockton on Tees Durham >>>>George Hartley abt 1860 Glossop, Derbyshire, England Head Engineering machinist

1901 this family Isabella Duncan abt 1882 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Niece Stockton on Tees Durham Ethel Forsyth abt 1883 Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England Visitor Stockton on Tees Durham Annie Hartley abt 1894 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Stockton on Tees Durham Eleanor Hartley abt 1865 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Wife Stockton on Tees Durham Florrie Hartley abt 1899 Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England Daughter Stockton on Tees Durham George Hartley abt 1860 Glossop, Derbyshire, England Head Stockton on Tees Durham 1891 George Hartly abt 1860 Glossop, Durham, England Lodger Stockton on Tees Durham

1891: George Hartly abt 1860 Glossop, Durham, England Lodger Stockton on Tees Durham With a family called Leybourn Merry (PS it does say Derbyshire on the actual page for place of birth!)

1891 England Census Record about George Hartly Name: George Hartly Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where Born: Glossop, Durham, England Civil parish: Stockton on Tees Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Source information: RG12/4051 Registration district: Stockton Sub registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Folio: 48 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6099161 Looks like him June x

THIS MAYBE HIS MARRIAGE, ALTHOUGH A BIT LATE AND NO BRIDE ON THE PAGE Name: George Hartley Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Auckland County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 295

Many thanks for the instant replies. I never thought of trying another spelling for the surname. I'll give them a try now and see where I get to.. Thanks again. Matt

sorry , wrong thread!!

This is a really long shot and only something to keep at the back of your mind, but.................. In 1901 there is Isabella Duncan, ''niece'', living with the Hartley family. If you look at her in 1891, her parents are Henry and Eleanor Duncan. Eleanor Duncan has the same place and year of birth (almost) that Eleanor Hartley, wife of George, does in 1901. I looked for Henry Duncan (Isabella's father) in 1901 and he is shown as married with one of the younger children in tow, but no wife. Do you have a scandal??? Probably not - may just be a co-incidence, but.............................. Merry

Merry, you are one smart person. Henry Duncan did infact marry Eleanor on 4th Feb 1882 and hada number of children including Isabella who is shown in the 1901 census. You are correct in saying that poor old Henry and a younger son where kicked out for reasons unknown and lover boy George Hartley moved in having two children Eleanor & Florrence. I can find no record of any divorce or remarriage between George or Eleanor. Henry died in 1909 in a workhouse in Throston. Just to keep the story going Florence went on to have 3 children out of wedlock to 2 different fathers (unknown) the became a' pillar' of the local church. It's just so difficult trying to find details about George. Matt

No George Hartley listed on 1881 census but at 29 Skinner Street, Stockton on Tees is Ann Hartley, 51. Widow, born Glamorgan, son Ellis Wm, 18, daughter Marian Lawrence, 27, son-in-law Harry Lawrence, 23, unemployed sea going engineer. Maybe George was at sea at that time.