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Manchester warehouse man in Christchurch London?

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Benjamin

Benjamin Report 6 Mar 2006 20:50

My ggg grandfather who lived in Bow, London in the late 1860s and early 1870s was described as a warehouseman on his 3rd child's birth cert in 1867, but whether this means he just worked for a warehouse or ran one, as by 1871 census he was a general labourer.

Ang

Ang Report 6 Mar 2006 20:32

yipee! Have found the answer to my own question. Have found a site listing London institutions. This cenus page & folio is described as 'Residence for employees of Messrs Cook son & co. Now off to do some research on Mr Cooke. Thank you all for your comments. Angie

Heather

Heather Report 6 Mar 2006 20:07

Thats really interesting - and now youve said it it does ring a bell - wasnt there a Russia dealer or something we found out was similar. Oh, so they werent all down for a jamboree then! LOL !PMSL (Im off to bed to get shot of this cold once and for all - nite nite)

Phoenix

Phoenix Report 6 Mar 2006 19:55

I thought that Birmingham ware consisted of small cheap metal goods, like buckles. Googling, however, suggests that it is might be all sorts of cheapjack, inferior goods.

Ang

Ang Report 6 Mar 2006 19:49

On this census form there are more than 200 manchester Warehousemen listed . So i am assuming it must be some kind of mill or maybe distribution. At first I thought it may be a kind of night shift but it does state 'private dwelling' on the info page. This is not crucial to me research but curiosity is getting to me!

Aunty

Aunty Report 6 Mar 2006 19:49

Just found this about Manchester cloth: www.fashion-era(.)com/velvets/velvet.htm (Remove brackets) 'Corduroy is made mostly from cotton.  Long wefts span several warp and when the weft is cut it creates the familiar high raised lines or cords with fine backing fabric lines between. The cords lines run the length of the warp.  Like velvet, corduroy should be cut in one direction only when making a garment or using heavier elephant cords in upholstery. This material is used to produce casual wear such as trousers, jeans, caps and jackets.  It often has other names such as corded velveteen, elephant cord, pin cord, Manchester cloth as it was produced as a Manchester cotton textile and worn originally by poorer workers in the same way that fustian was used.  Manchester cloth was very good quality with dense pile but is virtually impossible to obtain today.'  Monica

Dea

Dea Report 6 Mar 2006 19:40

Not necesarily anything to do with Manchester: Manchester Warehouseman Cotton warehouseman - Manchester being the centre of the cotton industry at the time, cotton cloth was called 'Manchester' cloth Dea x

Merry

Merry Report 6 Mar 2006 19:39

Was a Brum one to do with Guns?? Merry

Merry

Merry Report 6 Mar 2006 19:38

Manchester cloth was an alternative name for cotton cloth, given Manchester was the centre of the universe for the cotton industry at the time. So a Manchester Warehouseman was a person who ran a warehouse for cotton cloth. His warehouse would be wherever his market was........His cloth would come from Mancester. He was the middle-man, I suppose! Merry

Aunty

Aunty Report 6 Mar 2006 19:37

We had a thread about this before - but without getting a definitive answer. You'll find 'Manchester warehouseman' and 'Birmingham warehouseman' listed as occupations in the censuses. It refers to what the warehouse traded in rather than the place it was in. Manchester must surely be something to do with cotton - finished cloth, maybe - but no-one has found what Bimingham referred to - maybe metal? Let's hope someone new sees this thread and is able to give us an answer! Here's hoping, Monica

Ang

Ang Report 6 Mar 2006 19:33

I cannot find an actual address on the census form. It appears to be some kind of tied accomadation?? If you wish to take a look, I searched on William Gilbert born suffolk 1883 on 1901 census, he should pop up as a lodger in Christchurch, London aged 18.

Heather

Heather Report 6 Mar 2006 19:28

Well, Im sure you know what a warehouseman was, but I am confused why so many of them would be staying in London. Did they have some sort of outing or what???

Ang

Ang Report 6 Mar 2006 19:20

I have found a relative in the 1901 census listed as a lodger in Christchurch , London. The listing has 10 pages of 'Lodgers' mostly with a job description of 'Manchester Warehouseman'. A quick google tells me this job was something to do with the cotton industry. My question is what exactly was this job & would he have had some kind of accomodation with the job? Any info would be a bonus. Thanks Angie