Genealogy Chat

I have taken transcripts from 2 head stones, but I do not speak Welsh. If anyone can help I will PM them the words. Thank you Kim

Have you tried googling for a translator? This one came up just now: http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.html Liz x

Thanks Liz I will give it a go know Kim

Don't speak Welsh either, but have a basic dictionary. It's likely some of the words would be months etc, so if you are stuck and put inscription on here I could have a go. Pob luc (good luck) nell

Nell thanks for that, as the web site Liz gave doesn't recognise what I am typing. Jane Williams Gwraig John Williams Pentref-llyn or Plwyfhwn Yr honfu farw Tach dd 12 ed 1862 73 oed Hefyd William eurrahab Fu farw Tach 6 1830 Yn 4 Blwyddoed Hefyd John Williams uchod Yr hwn a fu farw Mehefin 20ed 1881 Yn 84 ml oed Thomas Williams Aberdauddwr (I know this is the house name) Plwyf Llandwyryfon Yr Hwn a fu farw Lonawr 29 1883 Yn 68 mlwydd oed Sussanah Williams Ei wraig yr hon a fur farw Malyr 16eg Yn y flwyddyn 1887 Yn 67 mlwydd oed Kim

Hi! Me and my big mouth - can't get my hands on dictionary, I know its in the house somewhere. I will get back to you asap. nell

No probs Nell Just grateful for your help Kim

Yr Hwn a Fu Farw means who fell asleep It's ages and years of death, mainly Gwynne

I found it – behind me in this room, having run downstairs a few times! Doh! Didn’t get very far as a) it’s a tourist book, so no call for “What to say in the Graveyard” lol b) Welsh nouns mutate, ie the first letter alters, so this dictionary is only English-Welsh and not t’otherway! This is also probably why you have been unable to translate it on the web BUT Jane Williams wife John Williams Pentref-llyn or Plwyfhwn [I think these are placenames] Yr honfu farw Tach dd 12 ed [Tachwedd is November, so perhaps Tach is Nov] 1862 73 oed [oed is age, I think] Hefyd William eurrahab Fu farw Tach 6 1830 [Tachwedd is November, so perhaps Tach is Nov] Yn 4 Blwyddoed Hefyd John Williams uchod Yr hwn a fu farw Mehefin 20ed 1881 Yn 84 ml oed [oed is age, I think] Thomas Williams Aberdauddwr (I know this is the house name) Plwyf Llandwyryfon Yr Hwn a fu farw January 29 1883[ Yn 68 mlwydd oed [oed is age, I think, and I am guessing this says “In the 68th year of his age” or something similar] Sussanah Williams Ei wraig yr hon a fur farw [possibly wraig is a mutation of gwraig, wife] Malyr 16eg Yn y flwyddyn 1887 Yn 67 mlwydd oed [oed is age, I think, so reads in 67th year of age] Hope this is a bit of help. I suggest you e-mail this to a Welsh library and ask if they can help. A Welsh speaker would be able to do it quickly. nell

Nell Thanks for the help, and you also got your daily excersie included! lol Never thought about asking a library, cheers Kim

will ask teacher at welsh school i collect children from, so should have translation about 3.30, hope this will help. Pam

Wow Thanks Pam Kim

This is how it translates Jane Williams Gwraig John Williams Pentref-llyn or Plwyfhwn Yr hon fu farw Tach dd 12 ed 1862 73 oed Jane Williams Wife of John Wiliams She who died November 12th 1862 age 73 Hefyd William en mab Fu farw Tach 6 1830 Yn 4 Blwyddoed Hefyd Williams Her son , who died November 6th 1830 age 4 years Hefyd John Williams uchod Yr hwn a fu farw Mehefin 20ed 1881 Yn 84 ml oed John William Husband of the above he who died June 20th 1881 age 84 years Thomas Williams Aberdauddwr (I know this is the house name) Plwyf Llandwyryfon Yr Hwn a fu farw Lonawr 29 1883 Yn 68 mlwydd oed Thomas Williams Aberdauddwr Parish Llandwyrfon he who died January 29th 1883 age 68 years Sussanah Williams Ei wraig yr hon a fur farw Malyr 16eg Yn y flwyddyn 1887 Yn 67 mlwydd oed Sussannah Williams His wife, she who died May 16th in the year 1887 Age 67 years Hope this helps Pam

Pam Thank you so much for that, it's brilliant Kim