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how do i find out if my grandad had any bothers/si

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Gazawacka

Gazawacka Report 13 Feb 2006 15:27

Hi im so new at this,but how do i go about it

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 13 Feb 2006 15:28

Hi Have you got your Grandfathers Birth Certificate? Give me some details of what you have ? Cheryl

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:{{{0())~} Ian مْر Report 13 Feb 2006 15:28

when was he born? Ian

Merry

Merry Report 13 Feb 2006 15:36

I makes a huge difference as to what you need to do, depending on when he was born! When and where was he born? Do you have his birth cert? and if you do, can you give all the details? Merry

Merry

Merry Report 13 Feb 2006 15:48

PM from Gary, ''hi,would so much love to find out as know one knows in my family,,his name was Frederick Henry Champs born in Ramsgate inon 21/1/1898 his father was Frederick Charles William Champs 1876 born in margate,,i have both birth cert where do i go from here'' Here they are in 1901: Alice K Chanfos abt 1900 Ramsgate, Kent, England Daughter St Lawrence Intra Kent Charlotte Chanfos abt 1876 Margate, Kent, England Wife St Lawrence Intra Kent Fredeick C W Chanfos abt 1876 Ramsgate, Kent, England Head St Lawrence Intra Kent Frederick N Chanfos abt 1898 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Intra Kent The original census page has the correct spellings! Dad is a bricklayer. Does that fit with the birth cert? Their address is, 2 Hilbrow Road, Ramsgate, Kent Merry

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 13 Feb 2006 15:52

Hi Well done Merry how on earth did you find that!!!!!! Cheryl

Gazawacka

Gazawacka Report 13 Feb 2006 15:53

My grandad was born in Ramsgate Kent at 22 Winstanley Road on 21/1/1898 his name was Frederick Henry Champs[i have his birth cert,his father was Frederick Charles William Champs born 1876 in Margate Kent married to Lottie Harman 1877,where do i go from here,no living relative can give me the answer

Merry

Merry Report 13 Feb 2006 15:53

have to go out now....for other children after 1901 it isn't easy. you could order certs for those born in the same place after 1901 and specify the parents names. Once you get to 1911 the mum's maiden surname is on the indexes which helps a good deal! Fred's mum's maiden name is Harmen. Here's his parents marriage: Marriages Sep 1897 >>>>Champs Frederick Charles W Thanet 2a 1713 >>>>>Harman Lottie Thanet 2a 1713 O'Key Alice Thanet 2a 1713 SOLE Alfred Charles Thanet 2a 1713 Lottie is short for Charlotte. Have to dash............................ Merry

Merry

Merry Report 13 Feb 2006 15:55

How did I find?? Put in Fred* born 1898 in Rams* (on Ancestry) Nothing else! Merry

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Feb 2006 15:56

This is probably his father in 1891:- Alfred Champs abt 1885 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Kent Alice Champs abt 1883 Ramsgate, Kent, England Daughter St Lawrence Kent Bertha Champs abt 1887 Ramsgate, Kent, England Daughter St Lawrence Kent Elizabeth Champs abt 1848 Ramsgate, Kent, England Wife St Lawrence Kent Ellen Champs abt 1878 Ramsgate, Kent, England Daughter St Lawrence Kent ****FREDERICK CHAMPS abt 1876 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Kent Henry Champs abt 1849 Head St Lawrence Kent Henry Champs abt 1870 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Kent Percy Champs abt 1889 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Kent William Champs abt 1880 Ramsgate, Kent, England Son St Lawrence Kent Kath. x

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 13 Feb 2006 16:06

Gary As usual Merry has weaved her magic! :)) You said you are new to this, was that just for forward tracing?.....If not, does that mean you are also looking for pointers on how to trace back? If so there are many kind people on here who will 'push' you in the right direction :) Chris *** Typed while Kath had already made a start :))))

Kate

Kate Report 13 Feb 2006 17:07

As Merry says, it is difficult to find out about any brothers and sisters born between 1901 and 1911. If you can get your grandfather's marriage certificate, it is possible that a brother or sister was a witness at his wedding. Kate.

Heather

Heather Report 13 Feb 2006 17:12

Well Gary, you must have some idea - you have 239 people on your GR tree since 2004 which isnt bad going!

Merry

Merry Report 13 Feb 2006 18:39

As I said before, mother's maiden name come on to the index in Q3 1911. There is only one birth after then with mum's name Harman, up to 1920. That's this one: 1913 Q2 Champs, Gertrude E, Harman, Thanet, 2a, 2093 Merry