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I can't find Michael McGarry or his brother Thomas on 1881 census. I have the fsamily here in 1861 Michael wasn't born but all his brothers and sister are here and father alive:- Bridget McGarry abt 1824 Ireland Wife Macclesfield Cheshire James McGarry abt 1857 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Son Macclesfield Cheshire Martin McGarry abt 1849 Ireland Son Macclesfield Cheshire Mary McGarry abt 1855 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Daughter Macclesfield Cheshire Patrick McGarry abt 1846 Ireland Son Macclesfield Cheshire Thomas McGarry abt 1823 Ireland Head Macclesfield Cheshire Thomas McGarry abt 1853 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Son Macclesfield Cheshire Source information: RG9/2581 Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 103 Page: 10 In 1871 Father must have died and mother remarried (No sign of James - Martin or Patrick though can't seem to find them anywhere) Bridget Curley abt 1831 Ireland Wife Wolstanton Staffordshire Thomas Curley abt 1841 Ireland Head Wolstanton Staffordshire Michael Knox abt 1831 Ireland Lodger Wolstanton Staffordshire Mary McGarry abt 1856 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Stepdaughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Michael McGarry abt 1862 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Stepson Wolstanton Staffordshire Thomas McGarry abt 1852 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Stepson Wolstanton Staffordshire Source information: RG10/2846 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Tunstall ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 66 In 1891 I have him married with his family as follows but still no sign of the brothers: McGarry, Ellen abt 1889 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Daughter Burslem Staffordshire McGarry, Jane abt 1865 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Wife Burslem Staffordshire McGarry, Margaret abt 1888 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Daughter Burslem Staffordshire McGarry, Michael abt 1861 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Head Burslem Staffordshire McGarry, Thomas abt 1886 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Son Burslem Staffordshire Source information: RG12/2161 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 92 Page: 36 Can anyone possibly take a fresh look and see if they can spot him or Thomas in 1881 Or even any of the other brothers or sister anywhere?

1881 - this looks very promising! Bridgett Garry abt 1831 Mayo, Ireland Mother 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Michael Garry abt 1863 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Brother 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Thos. Garry abt 1855 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Head 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Thos. Murphy abt 1872 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Charlotte Poston abt 1816 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England John Poston abt 1824 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England John S. Poston abt 1863 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Thomas and Michael are both Potters.....does that fit? I see mum has moved her place of birth.....maybe Thomas (her son, the head of household) thought his mum was born in Ireland?? Or perhaps she was!!) Merry

1881 - could this be them ?? Bridgett Garry abt 1831 Mayo, Ireland Mother 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England +++Michael Garry abt 1863 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Brother 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England +++Thos. Garry abt 1855 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Head 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Thos. Murphy abt 1872 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Charlotte Poston abt 1816 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England John Poston abt 1824 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Boarder 4 Chapel St Off America St, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England John S. Poston abt 1863 West Bromwich, Staffordshire

Oh thanks to both of you It must be them + I have had a letter from my Uncle this week stating he thought the family came from County Mayo so it confirms that with Bridget's birthplace. Back to delving for some more info now Many thanks again Yvonne

Could this be Patrick in 1871 ? John Kennedy abt 1818 Ireland Head Frizington Cumberland Mary I Long abt 1870 Cumberland, England Frizington Cumberland Winfred Long abt 1847 Ireland Lodger Frizington Cumberland Bridget McGarry abt 1850 Ireland Wife Frizington Cumberland Ellen McGarry abt 1853 England Visitor Frizington Cumberland John McGarry abt 1849 Ireland Head Frizington Cumberland +++Patrick McGarry abt 1846 Ireland Lodger Frizington Cumberland Patrick´s occupation Iron Ore Miner

This is the nearest I can get for James in 1871 - could the 'born in Ireland' be a mistake ? Frank Ford abt 1849 Somerford, Cheshire, England Son Somerford Cheshire John Ford abt 1797 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head Somerford Cheshire John Ford abt 1844 Somerford, Cheshire, England Son Somerford Cheshire James McGarry abt 1858 Ireland Servant Somerford Cheshire George Veroner abt 1833 Cheshire, England Stepson Somerford Cheshire

I think Patrick could be right Elaine. I am going to try and see who the other McGarry's could be with him in Cumberland. The James I did look at previously but he was definately born in Macclesfield. Maybe he just said he was born in Ireland? At least now I have some more things to go on & I appreciate your help with this I didn't think I was ever going to find them in 1881 and now I at least have Patrick to study too. Happy New Year and thanks again Yvonne

Earlier I was looking for Michael McGarry I was kindly pointed in the right direction by Merry & Elaine. On rechecking the 1891 I could see a Michael Kearnes and his family - I was excited about this as I realised they were probably Michael McGarry's wife Jane's parents. I then proceeded to check the censuses for previous years - this has been time consuming as you can see below: 1881 Census Michael Cairns Age in 1881: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Address: 3 Willetts Square Civil parish: Burslem County/Island: Staffordshire Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Green Grocer Source information: RG11/2712 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 91 Page: 32 1871 Census Michael Corns Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Where born: Ireland Source information: RG10/2852 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 30 Page: 7 1861 Census Michael Cornes Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Where born: Ireland Source information: RG9/1929 Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 6 Page: 6 Now guess what I am looking for his marriage to Sarah! I can't seem to find it under any of these names