Genealogy Chat

Hi, I was talking to a friend of mine and her husband yeterday she is very interested in starting her tree and her husband said there was no chance of him doing his as when his father wanted a birth certificate to get a passport his father was not registered this was in 1903 and he was born in Bermondsy (spelling) Margaret

Margaret, Have you tried searching for the birth record? You could put some details on here if your friend wants some help. Heather

I think thats unlikely - he would have needed a copy of his birth cert when he started work. Ive got my dads from then (Bermondsey 1914). And when he joined the forces (if he did), May be dad didnt want him to see it? Could even be that they gave him a name that they then didnt use!

Margaret I'm not really supprised as my great grandmother was not registered. My grandmother tried to apply for the birth certificate to get her mum a pension and failed. I have huntted for it for years and still can't find it. My gratgrandmother should, from what she knew, be born in 1900 but she's not on the 1901 census so I think she was mistaken by a year or 2. If you want us to have a look and see if anyone can find a record of the birth, I'll try to help where I can. Your friend could work of a marriage certificate as that gives the fathers name, if there is definnatly no birth certificate. Lunar xXx p.s. could your friends father-in-law have been born overseas? he wouldn't have a british birth certificate if he was.

Hi He said his fathers name was Francis Leahy born 1903 I did see one in Bermondsy for 1906 wonder if he made a mistake with his age. Margaret

Is this the 1906 one? Name: Leahy, Edward Francis Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1906 District: Mile End Old Town County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 400 Christine

Margaret He could esily be mistaken. My grandmothers little sister had no idea of when her birthday (June 1931) was other than what her mother had said for the kid to get a job. My great-grandmother lied and altered the DoB by over 6months. The girl was only 13 but mum made out she was 14 so she could take a waitressing job. The poor kid only found out when she ordered her birth certificate to get a passport when she got married.

Yes that is the birth I saw must be going cross eyed not the right place just had another look at it. He said they came from Cork Ireland but his father was born here, there are few on the 1901 census living that area from Ireland. Margaret

I've done a bit of playing on Ancestry. This lot may (or may not!) be yours - all or part. 1901 Source information: RG13/309 Registration district: St George in the East Sub-registration district: St George North ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 114 Page: 2 Household schedule number: 13 St George in the East London 198 Cable Street **Francis J Leahy abt 1864 St George in the East, London, England Head Cooper age 37 **C F Leahy abt 1870 St George in the East, London, England Wife M A Leahy abt 1896 St George in the East, London, England Daughter C F Leahy abt 1899 St George in the East, London, England Daughter (also 2 visitors and 3 boarders) You can pick up this family's births and this marriage: Name: Leahy, Francis John Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1894 District: St George in the East County: London Surrey Volume: 1c Page: 633 **McDonnell, Catharine Frances Stockley, Emma 1881 Source information: RG11/0457 Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 35 Page: 22 23 Cornwall St, St George in the East, London, England *John Leahy abt 1831 Ireland Head labourer *Mary Leahy abt 1836 Ireland Wife **Frank Leahy abt 1858 Shadwell, Middlesex, England Son labourer Ellen Leahy abt 1864 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Daughter tailoress David Leahy abt 1871 Wapping, Middlesex, England Son scholar Ann Leahy abt 1875 St George E, Middlesex, England Daughter scholar 1871 Source information: RG10/545 Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Shadwell ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 51 Page: 16 Household schedule number: 80 GSU Number: 823392 Wapping London 2 Prusoms Island *John Leahy abt 1831 Ireland Head Dry Cooper *Mary Leahy abt 1835 Ireland Wife **Francis Leahy abt 1858 St George in the East, Middlesex, England Son Scholar William Leahy abt 1860 Wapping, Middlesex, England Son Scholar Ellen Leahy abt 1863 Wapping, Middlesex, England Daughter Scholar David Leahy abt 1870 Wapping, Middlesex, England Son Can't trace them in 1891, though! Christine

Thank you I will give them the information and see what they think I have been al through the 1903 for births on 1837 online but did not find it Margaret

Its amazing how often people are adament about dates but you find out they are wrong. S o it would be checking that one out wouldnt it. Unless there is some reason dad didnt want to register him - though cant think what.