Genealogy Chat

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This must be the longest moan in history Marjorie!! Kat

blimey- 9 minutes worth of moan coming,

Waiting for a Will for Simeon Holden, I mooched around on the IGI to see if I could get him back a generation. Yes, I could - he married Judith Scholes, according to a PR entry. No, Simeon Holden obligingly had children called Simeon and Scholes (bapt same day - poss twins) Travis and Joshua.(and others but these are easiest to search). I found Scholes as the unmarried father of a child, and Travis as a Tax Inspector in 1881. So far so good. This branch of the Holdens goes back, according to the PR, to the mid-1600s. I then daringly went to Ancestral Files, to see if anyone had this family. Yes, they did. Well, at least, they had Simeon married to Judith Scholes. But they had SIMEON, not Scholes, as the father of the illegitimate child, no mention of Travis or Joshua and only one other child mentioned. They had the wrong father for Judith Scholes - and several generations before, well 1591 actually, the whole Holden family supposedly upped sticks and went to America, where they all died - so how come Simeon, Travis, Judith etc all died in Lancashire? The earliest person on this tree according to Ancestral Files, is one Justinian Holden who came from Lincolnshire. My Holdens never lived in Lincolnshire, Justinian has been transcribed as Justiman - and having come across ole Justinian before, I know that he is in fact John!!! There is a postal addy against this entry - shall I bother or not? No, probably not. Sorry, just needed to get this irritation off my chest! Olde Crone

It's easy to pick up the wrong people and get confussed - done it enough times myself, but you would think people would only post where they have proof of the connections Understand your frustions, maybe when you've calmed down you'll find the right words to calmly explain where they've gone wrong! Don't have night mares!! Elly

Olde Crone My husband's Jewish family are naturally not in any baptism records, BUT I did find some of them in ancestral files - they've given his great-great-grandfather an extra child with a different surname who died in South Africa. News to me!!!! nell

I really should not get so irritated by this. I am well used to the American idea of the Holdens all originating from Justinian who came from Lincolnshire. It just makes me cross that I cannot GET at any of these submitters to point out that there were THOUSANDS of Holdens alive in the 1500s, not one! Going to bed now! Olde Crone

You mean you haven't proved the link between your family and Adam? Dear me, what have you been doing! nell

tring quite hard to find a link with my Vincents to this pair good example of , well, not quite sure what! was dyslexia invented in those days? AMIBALL VINSENT Female Family Marriages: Spouse: SMAUEL SNELGROVE Family Marriage: 08 FEB 1699 Saint Mary, Wilton By Salisbury, Wiltshire