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LOST AT SEA NO DEATH CERTIFICATE
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emmybaby | Report | 31 Oct 2005 23:48 |
Can someone please advise me on this topic? My father was lost at sea in 1961,I know the name of the ship and the name of the company(which is now no longer in existance) I am trying to get issued with a death certificate and as he was a fisherman Im lost as to where to begin,the skipper is supposed to issue death certificate but seeing as all hands went down with the ship that is impossible,he fished out of Grimsby on a seine netter. Any help would be gratefully recieved, thankyou Emmybaby |
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Phoenix | Report | 1 Nov 2005 00:05 |
I think that the loss of a ship would be recorded at Lloyds. A phonecall to your local registrar might be appropriate. They ought to be able to tell you the procedure to follow. Whether Lloyds would also hold details of the crew who were lost I do not know. Good luck. B |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 1 Nov 2005 00:09 |
have you searched on 1837 he could be recorded on there |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 1 Nov 2005 00:12 |
if you google deaths at sea Grimsby 1961 there is a lot of info |
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Peterkinz | Report | 1 Nov 2005 03:20 |
When the log of a vessel was lost with the ship, a copy of the crew list was submitted to the Registrar General instead. For the years 1920-1938, these are held at the National Maritime Museum, and include fishing vessels (List D), organised by official number. For the years 1939-1950, the C&D lists are included in log books and agreements held at the Registry of Shipping. Daily Casualty Registers, War of 1939-1945, are held at the National Archives (BT 347). Presumably the National Maritime Museum could tell you what has happened in recent years Peter |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 1 Nov 2005 11:48 |
Was it the whole ship that was lost or only your father? My grandfather was lost at sea in 1911 from a merchant navy vessel and the event was logged by the captain. On arrival back at Hamburg at the end of the voyage the log was submiited & a death cert was issued. I found the gro ref in the overseas section at the london Records office & got a cert, which is a Certified Copy of an Entry in the Marine Registers.Because I then knew the name of the vessel I then was lucky to find the orignal ships log at Kew & get copies. Shirley. Just reread your thread & saw that the all were lost. Sorry I missed that. Would have thought that there would have been an inquest/enquiry & death certs than issued. Have you tried 1837 for gro ref either the main section or the oversess deaths section. |
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Janet in Yorkshire | Report | 1 Nov 2005 12:11 |
Hi Emma, I would think there would have had to be an official inquiry if a fishing boat was lost at sea and all souls perished. There would be reports in the local newspapers too. Would it be worth e-mailng the central library in Grimsby and asking them what information they have on the loss of the ship? - they may be able to offer references you can follow up. Sometimes there are memorials in the town when a complete boat is lost. Janet |
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Llamedos Pam | Report | 1 Nov 2005 12:28 |
Hi, My GGGrandfather was lost at sea and I got his death certificate via 1837 looking up marine deaths, I had a quick look and they go up to 1965 so if your family didnt have to wait 7 years or the inquest was not too many years later then one may have been issued, I have a few credits on 1837 if you want to mail me direct and give me the details I will have a look for you,Pam |
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Llamedos Pam | Report | 1 Nov 2005 12:29 |
Hi, My GGGrandfather was lost at sea and I got his death certificate via 1837 looking up marine deaths, I had a quick look and they go up to 1965 so if your family didnt have to wait 7 years or the inquest was not too many years later then one may have been issued, I have a few credits on 1837 if you want to mail me direct and give me the details I will have a look for you,Pam |