Genealogy Chat

1851 Census Henry Habberfield living in Bristol with wife Charlotte and 2 children 1861 Census Henry Habberfield living in same street in Bristol with wife and children, and a lodger Henry Veal (widower) aged 83. The only marriage I can find for a Henry Habberfield anywhere near the correct time frame is in 1852, one of the 2 females on the page is Charlotte Veal.

Is the lodger the father / or cousin or / uncle of Charlotte? Often happened in my family that the neighbours or lodgers turn out to be relatives. Kim

That's what we think, but why is the marriage only in 1852, when they ahd been having children since 1845, and she is shwon in 1851 Census as his wife

WHO IS THE OLD MAN WITH IN THE 1851? That might help you establish of your man had two wives, both called Charlotte- You never know!

WAS LOOKING For the 1861 to see who was born where and when . what is the ref ?, i cant see them

There is a Henry Veale aged 70 living with wife and son in 1851 census. I have come across relatives having 2 spouses of the same name - they don't seem to have any consideration.

1861 Census is RG9/1733

The marrying later makes sense, is that something that happened in the 1840's, or could it be a late registration of a wedding.

If you get a birth cert for one of the children it will confirm Charlotte's maiden name. nell

If this helps Henry and Charlotte are living in the same parish in 1841 if these are the correct famillies. VEAL CHARLOTTE F 12 GLOUCESTERSHIRE NARROW PLAIN BRISTOL ST PHILIP & JACOB WITHOUT GLOUCESTERSHIRE living with VEAL ANN F 10 VEAL HARRIOT F 45 VEAL HENY M 50 VEAL SAML M 15 HO107-0378 Folio 16 page 27 HABERFIELD HENRY M 12 GLOUCESTERSHIRE DARK ENTRY BRISTOL ST PHILIP & JACOB WITHOUT GLOUCESTERSHIRE living with HABERFIELD ANN F 51 HABERFIELD CHARLOTTE F 10 HABERFIELD MARY F 6 HO107-0378 Folio 43 page 34 Julie

The children on 1851 census might not be Charlotte's. Relationship to 'head' is shown but there could have been a previous wife. Calling oneself 'wife' was probably more respectable in 1891. My great grandmother is listed in that census with her husband and their 3 daughters. She married him in 1892. Yes people did lie.