Genealogy Chat

thats interesting liz i was adopted in 1978 so after that i wouldnt be on 1837 but before that i would how strange in years to come people wont be able to find me if they wanted to do tree with me in it hugs angie x

Well on my original short birth certificate was place of birth England don't think it even had the town. Subsequent replacement one had Birmingham which wasn't true

Just a little comment on the short certs,there neednt be anything 'sinister' in having a short birth cert. when the birth was registered you were asked if you wanted to full cert or the cheaper short cert. My hubby had a short birth cert for many year s as when his birth was reg. in 1934 his parents were short of money so they opted for the cheaper versin. He needed a full cert early on in our marriage for some legal matter ,so we then got a copy of the full cert. Shirley

Btw, in case it helps, this thread reminded me that I lost my full cert years ago so I thought I'd order another. HOWEVER as an adoptee, my name isn't on 1837online - I have had to order it as an adoption cert from the GRO using just my d-o-b as reference, for £11.50, as adoption registers are not available online (as far as I know). So, of your friend is adopted, she will not be found on 1837online - at least not in her post-adoption name. Liz x

You can order your full birth certificate just as you order any other certificate from the GRO, at a cost of £7.00 online. Just find out the ref from 1837 (or get a kind member here to do so), go to the GRO website and off you go. Liz x

I've often wondered about short certificates. Mine is a short one, would there be a record of a long one anywhere? I was born in 1953. I believe my Mum was a lady with a social concience, She objected to the stigma attatched to Illegitimacy, and felt there should be no difference in the birth records. So my brother and I only have short form certs. It was her desire that the long form certs would be phased out, thus removing the possibility of discrimination. Of course all this has done has made it look that we were illegitimate! But I do applaud her thinking, she was one in a million. Where would we all be without full certs though, it would make the rellie hunting so difficult! Suex

Hi Sheila, As Jess has said if she looks a the date on her cert, its normally a few months after her birth about 6 months generally. Also mine is a copy of my short cert, and it says taken from a extract of the Gerneral Registers Office, in London as you cannot obtain one locally in your adopted name. Have you any 1837 credits left have youo looked to see if you can find her birth entry with her mothers maiden name to match, if you do then she is not adopted. Sheila

Thanks ladies. That seems to answer the question. Her birth certificate looks the same as any other. I've seen the long version. Also her birth was registered within two weeks of her birth date. Guess she is just the daughter of a very weird woman who was hoping she might have a get out. Thanks for your help Sheila

Something to look for would be the date her birth was registered compared with the date she was born If you adopt someone , effectively their birth is re-registered in their new name, but this does take time Jess x

The short version of a birth certificate will not differ at all. The full version however will initially look the same, but will actually be a certificate of adoption, not a certificate of birth. This will be written clearly at the top of the certificate. Remember this applies only to the full certificate, not the short one. Liz x

Because they know I do family history, people ask me all sorts of questions. Can someone help with this one from a friend of mine whose parents and close relatives are all dead. She always had a troubled relationship with her mother who didn't speak to her for years, saying that the daughter had ruined her life and wouldn't apologise! From what she's said I think her childhood was pretty abusive. Anyway she's now found a family photo and can verify the date that it was taken. It was taken two months before she was born, at her grandad's retirement party. Thing is her Mum is sitting in the front row in a shirtwaist dress with a belt and no sign of a pregnancy! She's got her birth certificate. How would it differ from an 'ordinary' birth certificate if she were adopted? At the moment she's very distressed and can't see another explanation. We are absolutely sure of the date of the photo. All advice gratefully received. Sheila