Genealogy Chat

Merry, hope you are still around . Were did you find Eliza b 1832 i have just been through 2,000 pages on 1851 and can't find it. Gill

Thanks Merry. Don't have the first marridge cert, someone found it for me on some parish records they had. It just say Smith, James age ; 24 marridge Wife;Elizabeth Taylor age :18 Marridge date: 16 June 1851 recorded in:Bucknall, Staffordshire Husbands father:James Smith Wifes father Robert Taylor source FHL film 1278827dares:1844-1853 Just found on staffs BMD the same marridge recorded in Bagnal. The two places are usually linked as Bucknall cum Bagnal. Gill

Well that Eliza Taylor I listed at the start in Stoke upon Trent may well be in Bucknall and she was born in the right place! There are no separate listings for Bucknall in 1851. So I would say that should be her. What was your James occupation on the marriage cert? Merry

I don't have James on any other census, he dies sometime in the 1850s. Elizabeth the widow marries my 2xgrtgrandad Enoch Shenton in 1863. Cannot find a match for Elizabeth on 1861 either. On 1871 census it says Elizabeth was born in Hanley. Both her marridges are in Buchnall that's why ican't understand why i can't find her on the census in Buchnall. Gill

OK - Hope you get on OK at the Dr's...... I won't be back till this evening.......... Merry

The one in Tipton is a butcher. Have you found the same couple on a later census?? Where did they say they were born? Merry

Hi Merry. Will have a good look at them in about half an hour got a docs appoinment at 2 but will be back. Thanks Gill

Sorry Gill - everytime I try to search for their names on the 1851 census, Ancestry just keeps coming up with the 1861 census. Don't know why. Kath. x

and maybe this one for the groom? This James was a Chair Maker.... 1851: View Record George Rutter abt 1825 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Son-in-law Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Harriet Rutter abt 1829 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Harriet Rutter abt 1839 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Eliza Smith abt 1842 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Elizabeth Smith abt 1804 Stone, Staffordshire, England Head Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Emma Smith abt 1836 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire >>>>View Record James Smith abt 1827 Stone, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Merry

That's a laugh about the 20/20 vision....she said, squinting!! What about this bunch? >>>>View Record Eliza Taylor abt 1832 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Ellen Taylor abt 1830 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Emily Taylor abt 1850 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Hugh Taylor abt 1840 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record John Taylor abt 1834 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Mary Taylor abt 1809 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Head Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Maryann Taylor abt 1838 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record William Taylor abt 1836 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Zilla Taylor abt 1848 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire The parish you mentioned....um....forgotten now - where the marriage took place - was recorded as part of Stoke upon Trent in 1851. Merry

Is there anybody out there with 20/20 vision.James Smith aged 24 marries Elizabeth Taylor 18 16th june 1851 recorded at Bucknall Staffs. Census i believe was taken end of march 1851.Tried to find Elizabeth and James on census, the only match i can find is in Tipton Staffs but very poor image they are living as husband and wife. Can someone look for Jameses employment and see what you think it says. If anybody has second sight i would like to know what the blazes they were doing there. lol because they shouldn't be. Thank's Gill