Genealogy Chat

Looking for anyone who might have this lady in their tree. She is cousin of my grandfather Edwin Sharkey. Didn't have any luck in the trying to find section. This is the only information I have: Her mother's maiden name was Sharkey. Rose born possibly in Lancashire between 1875-1885. Lived in Dublin (near the quays) with husband Mr Hollings around 1904-1907. Thanks Rose

Have you tried to find Rose on 1881 census to narrow down whether or not she was born before/after that date? Have you looked for a McArdle/Sharkey marriage? Have you tried to find her 1901 to see whether or not she was still in England? nell

Helen, I have not been able to find a McArdle/Sharkey marriage. Since I don't know the first names of her parents I cannot determine which census record would be correct. The information I have is sketchy. In my grandmother's memoirs she tells that she met 2 sisters of my great grandfather Richard Sharkey, a Mrs Mulholland and Mrs McArdle. No first names. Both were married and lived in England but where was not stated. I don't know whether these ladies were older or younger than my great grandfather who was born about 1842 in Ashton under Lyme. Later she says that my grandfather, Edwin Sharkey( b 1879 in Birminham) went to visit with his cousin, Rose Hollings nee McArdle in Dublin around 1904. I am at a dead end with the Sharkey's. I was hoping someone would recognize the name and have more information about her which would help me track down more of my great grandfather's family. Rose

So are we saying that Rose's mother was very likely to be the sister of Edwin's father?? ie Rose and Edwin were 1st cousins, rather than more distant cousins? Here's Edwin in 1881: Richard SHARKEY Head M Male 40 Ashton Under Line, Lancashire, England Brush Maker Rachael SHARKEY Wife M Female 31 Hanley, Stafford, England Francis SHARKEY Son U Male 9 Hanley, Stafford, England Scholar William SHARKEY Son U Male 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar Edwin SHARKEY Son Male 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England Dad and mum in 1871: Eliza Mountford abt 1835 Longton, Staffordshire, England Wife Hanley Staffordshire Ellen Mountford abt 1870 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire Fred Mountford abt 1864 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Son Hanley Staffordshire John Mountford abt 1833 Leck, Staffordshire, England Head Hanley Staffordshire Lizzie Mountford abt 1867 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire >>>>Rachel Sharkey abt 1844 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Wife Hanley Staffordshire >>>>Richard Sharkey abt 1844 Ashton, Lancashire, England Boarder Hanley Staffordshire Have you been able to find Richard before this date?? I can't easiy find him in 1861 or 1851 at the mo...... Do you have Richard's marriage cert? Name: Sharkey, Richard Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1870 District: Stoke upon Trent County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 306 Spouse Rachel Chamberlain Merry

Found Richard in 1861....not with family Ggggrrrr Richard Sharkey abt 1841 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Shelton Staffordshire Lucky he is a brushmaker - makes him easier to trace! Will try 1851, but don't hold out much hope as swathes of Lancs are missing!! Merry

No luck yet....we need his siblings to find the right sister! If we find him, we only want him to have the one sister!!!!! lol Merry

Hi Merry, Yes, Rose and Edwin would have been 1st cousins. I have all the info about Richard you showed on your reply. On Richard's marriage cert it shows his Father's name is Francis a stone mason. According to the family history, Francis is from French Park Roscommon. What I don't know is Richard's mother's name or any names of his siblings. The Lancashire/Cheshire BMD people said that many birth records from 1837-1842 are unreadable or missing and could not locate a birth record for Richard. Actually, I need to see he has 2 sisters. One that married a Mulholland and one who married a McArdle. Rose McArdle Hollings is the only name of the extended family member I have to work with. Thanks Rose

Yes, sorry - two sisters! Wondered vaguely about these people?? 1881: Thomas SHARKEY Head M Male 20 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Cooper Catherine SHARKEY Wife M Female 19 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Margaret SHARKEY Sister U Female 21 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Servant Mary SHARKEY Daur U Female 11 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ann J. MULHOLLAND Neice U Female 12 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Went back ten years to see what the situation was..... Ann J Mulholland abt 1869 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Henry Mulholland abt 1837 Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire James Mulholland abt 1870 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Mary Mulholland abt 1843 Ireland Wife Liverpool Lancashire Cathe Sharkey abt 1855 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sister-in-law Liverpool Lancashire Jno Sharkey abt 1854 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Brother-in-law Liverpool Lancashire Margt Sharkey abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Sister-in-law Liverpool Lancashire Thos Sharkey abt 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Brother-in-law Liverpool Lancashire Ann Waters abt 1828 Ireland Servant Liverpool Lancashire Youngest Sharkeys seem to young to be the siblings of Richard, but then they are a lot younger than Mary Mulholland too!! Merry

Thanks Merry, This might be the break I've been looking for. I agree they were born much later than Richard and Mary but maybe their father married twice. Although, on my grandmother's side, her father (the youngest of 16) was born 18 years after his eldest child. Same situation with my grandmother's family. The youngest of 13 was born 21 years after the oldest. In both instances, there were no second marriages. So, I guess it's possible for the Sharkey's as well. By the way, Lancashire is slow in getting their records on line. Not able to find a marriage record for Henry Mulholland and Mary Sharkey. I'll let you know if it pans out. Rose

Pity dad isn't Francis........ 1861 Bridget Sharkey abt 1844 Ireland Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Catherine Sharkey abt 1855 Liverpool Daughter Liverpool Lancashire James Sharkey abt 1811 Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire John Sharkey abt 1853 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire Margaret Sharkey abt 1842 Ireland Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Margaret Sharkey abt 1857 Liverpool Daughter Liverpool Lancashire View Record Mary Sharkey abt 1816 Ireland Wife Liverpool Lancashire Thomas Sharkey abt 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire Henry Somer abt 1843 Ireland Nephew Liverpool Lancashire Assuming I have the right family!! I would still check them out though........... Merry

Hi again, Well, turns out that James has the wrong occupation. Richard's father was a stone mason. James could have been Richard's uncle. Or, it could be another case of my grandmother getting names mixed up. I have found she has been way off base with some of the names in her own family mentioned in her memoirs including her grandmother's maiden name. She had it confused with her great aunts married name. I have to excuse her though because she was 68 when she decided to write all this down. If you happen to run across anything else, let me know. You can email me directly. Thanks again, Rose