Genealogy Chat

You could still try to get back to her through her sister. You know where her sister was born and roughly the year & you know her dad's name & occupation (from the marriage certificate that your friend has). If you try to look for all the Elizabeths that match with the fathers details in 1871 then follow the familys through to 1881, Annie & possibly Hettie should appear. It might be a bit time consuming but you should get there. Good luck, and if you need any help just ask. Rachel

As I said it's for a friend. As far as I know (remember!) Annie Jones married Mr Moore after moving to this area - Lancashire but around Liverpool. So hazel (my friend) does have the marriage certificate but can find no trace of Annie's birth. Not an easy one though. She recently found the funeral report in a local paper which gave her the name of 2 sisters - Elizabeth & Hettie. Elizabeth was Mrs Tabernacle so that made the 1901 search easy. She has no idea when Hettie was born or what her full name may have been. So lateral thinking that she could get back via Elizabeth rather than Annie which seems a no go. Jane

Is this the one that you think is the 1901 to work back from? Edmund Tabernalle abt 1900 Leigh, Lancashire, England Son Leigh Lancashire Elizabeth Tabernalle abt 1868 Not Known, Shropshire, England Wife Leigh Lancashire Ellen Tabernalle abt 1883 Leigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Leigh Lancashire James Tabernalle abt 1847 Leigh, Lancashire, England Head Leigh Lancashire James Tabernalle abt 1885 Leigh, Lancashire, England Son Leigh Lancashire Sydney Tabernalle abt 1899 Leigh, Lancashire, England Son Leigh Lancashire You are brave!! unless you categorically that the children are correct, I suppose jess x ok, yep, i understand now Name: Tabernacle, Edmund Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1900 District: Leigh County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 340 Who did Annie marry?

Thank you everyone. I will pass all these onto my friend and leave it to her to work out! Jane

No offence meant but are you sure that the Elizabeth in 1881 is yours (or hers should I say), there are loads of them to choose from! Not sure if she has this marriage already but: Marriages Mar 1896 Jones Elizabeth Leigh 8c 348 Tabernacle James Leigh 8c 348 If she already has this cetrificate, what does it list as father's occupation? That might help when trying to track them through the various census. Good luck with it Rachel

Jane Then there is this one. 1871 England Census Viewing records 1-6 of 6 matches « Global Search Results Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island View Image Save This Elizabeth Jones abt 1837 St Martins, Shropshire, England Wife Weston Rhyn Shropshire Elizabeth Jones abt 1869 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Weston Rhyn Shropshire John Jones abt 1827 Abergele, Denbighshire, Wales Head Weston Rhyn Shropshire Thomas Jones abt 1864 St Martins, Shropshire, England Son Weston Rhyn Shropshire William Jones abt 1870 St Martins, Shropshire, England Son Weston Rhyn Shropshire Mary J Owens abt 1865 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Niece Weston Rhyn Shropshire Victor

Oh dear, cant find Elizabeth in 1871! will look again!! jess Found one...but they already have a daughter Ann! Ann Jones abt 1835 St Martins, Shropshire, England Wife Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Ann Jones abt 1869 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Elizabeth Jones abt 1868 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Esther Jones abt 1865 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire John Jones abt 1824 Glynmonlas, Shropshire, England Head Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Mary Jones abt 1862 Glynmonlas, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Thomas Jones abt 1870 St Martins, Shropshire, England Son Ifton Rhyn Shropshire This one has father missing- but a son called John(named after dad?) Eliza Jones abt 1837 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Wife Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Elizabeth Jones abt 1867 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Enoch Jones abt 1836 Chirk, Denbighshire, Wales Lodger Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Hannah Jones abt 1870 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire John Jones abt 1864 St Martins, Shropshire, England Son Ifton Rhyn Shropshire Mary Jones abt 1861 St Martins, Shropshire, England Daughter Ifton Rhyn Shropshire

I am asking for a friend who has been trying to find her Grandmother for many years. At last she has a lead. Grandmother was Annie Jones so not an easy one to trace. However she had a sister called Elizabeth who became Mrs Tabernacle and this has given her a start. 1901 census - Elizabeth Tabernacle age 33 wife of James living at Leigh born in Shropshire 1881 census - Elizabeth Jones age 13 servant living at Ellesmere born at St. Martins Shropshire So hopefully in 1871 - Elizabeth Jones age 3 dau of John Jones born at St. Martins Shropshire Annie wasn't born until 1873 but this would get her back a generation. Thanks Jane