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I need help in finding a wedding of James Robinson and Maria. Jess has kindly found them on the 1901, James was born abt 1854 in Portsea and Maria about 1859 in Brighton. Their first child was born 1890 but I can't find a marriage. If I can get the marriage, I can double check the parents of James to confirm whether he is one of mine. Anybody got any ideas?? Thanks

Where have you looked already?

From FREEBMD - this is the only possible marriage 'south of the wash' in the 1885-95 period ..... otherwise you need to trawl 1837Online. Where were they in 1891 ? Marriages Dec 1889 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pennicard Thomas Charles St Saviour Southwark 1d 265 Killick Maria St Saviour Southwark 1d 265 Robinson James Ernest St. Saviour 1d 265 THOMAS Ellen St. Saviour 1d 265

I tried the 1881 Census for James and he wasn't there at all. I had a look on Ancestry UK, Free BMD and Family Search. I made a list of weddings of Robinsons from the Portsmouth Record Office, so my only other option is to trail through them. Trust me to have an ordinary name. It is almost as bad as Smith. (No offence to any Smith's on this board)

Looks like theres a daughter born 1881 - back to Square One for you ! Robinson, Harriett abt 1881 Brighton, Sussex Daughter Portsea Hampshire Robinson, James abt 1855 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Head Portsea Hampshire Robinson, Maria abt 1855 Brighton, Sussex Wife Portsea Hampshire Robinson, Minnie abt 1890 Portsmouth, Hampshire / Hantshaving Daughter Portsea Hampshire WHOA ........ on the image, theres more kids - step-children .. Maria AHERN - 13, born Portsmouth Harriet -do- - 10, born Brighton William -do- - 8, born Portsmouth. Hmmmm - this may be Maria Ahern snr in 1881. The image says she is Married .... wheres the husband and 3 year old ? Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence --------------------------------------------------------- Maria Ahern abt 1859 Brighton, Sussex, England Servant 5 Grafton Sq, Clapham, London, England Ethel Ridley abt 1856 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 5 Grafton Sq, Clapham, London, England Hannah Ridley abt 1818 London, Middlesex, England Head 5 Grafton Sq, Clapham, London, England Heres the little girls - living with grandparents, who as they are not Aherns must be Maria b1859 parents - so now you have a maiden name.... BUT the plot thickens, why is Maria b1878 called LOWER not Ahern ???? I'll check the image.... Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence ---------------------------------------------------------- +->Harriet Ahern abt 1880 Brighton, Sussex, England Granddaughter 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Ansley S. Halsted abt 1831 Brighton, Sussex, England Head 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Edward G. Halsted abt 1865 Landport, Hampshire, England Son 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Elizabeth K. Halsted abt 1873 Landport, Hampshire, England Daughter 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England William J. Halsted abt 1867 Brighton, Sussex, England Son 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Ann Hollis abt 1815 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Lodger 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Ellen D. Legg abt 1823 Fareham, Hampshire, England Lodger 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England Charlotte Littlejohn abt 1851 Landport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Lodger 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England +->Maria H. Lower abt 1878 Landport, Hampshire, England Granddaughter 46 Sussex St, Portsea, Hampshire, England ============================================== Here's Maria's marriage to William Ahern. Maybe the eldest daur Maria b1878 was illegitmate or an even previous marriage ? Marriages Jun 1880 ------------------- AHERN William Portsea I. 2b 788 Halsted Maria Portsea 2b 788 Nicholson Elizabeth Portsea 2b 788 Quill David Portsea I. 2b 788 ============================================== Right sort of age .... could have left Portsea area for work ... he wasnt around in 1881 - kids were with grmother and Maria was a servant ... Deaths Mar 1890 ----------------- Ahern William 32 W.Ham 4a 5[14]

There is this marriage - possibly theirs, would mean that they weren't married when they had their first child in 1890... have you purchased that child's birth certificate - it will give you more details! Surname First name(s) District Vol Page --------------------- Marriages Dec 1903 --------------------- AHERN Maria Portsmouth 2b 1154 Fleet Jane Portsmouth 2b 1154 Robinson James Portsmouth 2b 1154 WHAPSHARE James Portsmouth 2b 1154 This is the Harriett Necromancer found Births Dec 1880 ------------------- Ahern Harriett Brighton 2b 230

and young William Ahern .. Births Dec 1882 --------------- Ahern William Portsea 2b 500 No sign of a Reg'n for Maria Lower/Ahern/Halsted tho ..... still, not a bad run for your money Jan - 2 weddings and a funeral - and 2 births ...

Well thank you one and all. I have so much to go on now and no sign of Hugh Grant (Four weddings etc). I'll have a look at the Record Office to see if they have the baptisms of the children to start with.