Genealogy Chat

On the '61 and '71 there is a Caleb Williams born 1855 in Henry's Moat, Pembrokeshire.

LOL, you didn't say you had found them in the censuses and that they weren't in Wales! That would have made the search a bit easier. :-) Will have a look, but not entirely sure what you want to find, you seem to have a lot of info already.

righr ladies, so for we think these are not the ones we need. The marriage looks the right one(check with mum)I have sat all night looking, i know that they where in middlesbrough in 1891 and 1901. The spelling on both census is different for caleb, 1891 spelt culet, on the 1901 spelt caleb. I have found a caleb on 1861 census, but some how the b becomes a p. not sure if it's the one i need. Cannot find anything else on them.

Sinead - there is one - see my post. But it's not in Aberdare. What makes you think it was Aberdare to begin with, Helen? This is the 1881 family in 1901, still in the same place but note the extra initial for John.... Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Caleb Williams 1848 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Head Llangnicke Glamorgan Henrietta Williams 1878 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Llangnicke Glamorgan John C Williams 1876 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llangnicke Glamorgan Mary Williams 1848 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Llangnicke Glamorgan Mary Annie Williams 1897 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Granddaughter Llangnicke Glamorgan Mary J Williams 1881 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Llangnicke Glamorgan Llangnick is in Pontardawe. Is this your John's marriage??? Name: Williams, John Caleb Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1902 District: Pontardawe County: Breconshire Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 1244 (click to see others on page) Name Year Quarter Record Type District County Evans, Tabitha 1902 March Marriages Pontardawe Breconshire Glamorgan Evans, William 1902 March Marriages Pontardawe Breconshire Glamorgan Francis, Cecilia 1902 March Marriages Pontardawe Breconshire Glamorgan Williams, John Caleb 1902 March Marriages Pontardawe Breconshire Glamorgan

Regharding to Jess's find in 1881 I have them in 1871 but no John! Caleb Williams 1821 llanboidy Edward williams 1860 aberdare Joseph Williams 1859 aberdare Mary Williams 1823 llangenech Morgan williams 1862 aberdare sarah williams 1864 aberdare in ynyslwydst st aberdare Also in 1891 at 13 ynyslwydst st aberdare Caleb williams 58 coal miner llandboidy Mary williams 69 llangenech Sorry no john in either and I could not find a john with a father caleb in any of the censuses Sineadxxx

MIGHT be his parents marriage Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ----------------------------- Marriages Jun 1874 ---------------------------- EVANS Joyce Merthyr T. 11a 735 EVANS Mary Ann Merthyr T. 11a 735 James Rees Merthyr T. 11a 735 Williams Caleb Merthyr T. 11a 735 But with such common surnames, it's difficult to pinpoint one.

There are something like 30 x John Williams born Aberdare in 1874/5/6!

1881 census - nothing for Aberdare.... but there's this one with father Caleb and mother Mary in Glamorgan. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Caleb WILLIAMS Head M Male 33 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Carpenter Mary WILLIAMS Wife M Female 33 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Margaret WILLIAMS Daur Female 7 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar John WILLIAMS Son Male 5 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar Henrietta WILLIAMS Daur Female 3 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar Mary J. WILLIAMS Daur Female 1 Ystalyfera, Glamorgan, Wales -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 2 Back Evans Row Census Place Llanguick, Glamorgan, Wales Family History Library Film 1342288 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5347 / 97 Page Number 12

1881 wales Caleb Williams resident in Aberdare returns this: Caleb Williams abt 1836 Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head 73 Ynyslwyd St, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Edward Williams abt 1861 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son 73 Ynyslwyd St, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Joseph Williams abt 1859 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son 73 Ynyslwyd St, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Mary Williams abt 1825 Llangenech, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife 73 Ynyslwyd St, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Morgan Williams abt 1862 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son 73 Ynyslwyd St, Aberdare, Glamorgan No John though jess x

have you found anything relating to him at all? census/birth/death/marriage?

I'm looking for a john williams born about 1875, in aberdare, wales.his father was caleb williams and his mother was mary anne williams (nee evans)any help would be gratefully appreciated. Helen