Genealogy Chat

Thanks Lyla- they must have been a migratory lot! On RHM's birth record John Thomas calls himself a traveller - not sure if this means he was a gypsy or a salesman or just a layabout! Later on the marriage certificates he says he was an organ builder. I wonder if there is a list of indentures - as I think he was indentured to someone inthe Minories according to family legend.

As far as Scotland is concerned I am not sure. People did move around in those days and the family must have come from Scotland originally. Hard to say - such common names -John and Sarah and even Munro

I think that could be his widow - Robert was a definite family name but his second son is already called Robert Hugh. Do you think they would call two sons Robert? There's a Sarah Munro in 1871 that could be his widow? Annie Maria Munro 1834 Lambeth Daughter Lambeth London Robert William Munro 1840 Lambeth Son Lambeth London Sarah Munro 1800 Clerkenwell Head Lambeth London

In the 1856 marriage of Robert Hugh says - Hornsey - that's all. The parish was St Mary Hornsey. In the 1846 marriage of James Hector it says - 10, Great Sutton St (I think). The parish was St James of Clerkenwell. The earliest census would be 1841 but I can't seem to find that one anywhere. Is the 1851 census available? That would mean I could search by address instead of name - is that what you mean? Thank you! Jennie

Hi Sarah - I did see it and think I replied to it. Hi Jennifer, I put this message (below) on your other thread on the 20th April, but don't know if you saw it? Hi Jennifer, Yes, never assume someones age! My g-grandfather didn't have any kids until he was nearly 60! Re JT Monro - there is a baptism on the IGI: NOV 1783 St Botolph Without Aldgate, London. Parents Hugh and Elizabeth Munro. You said JTM's son was called Robert HUGH Monro, so there MIGHT be a connection (don't think the name Hugh was at all common then), but on no account would I suggest this is the bap of JTM without further evidence - just something to think about! How do you know that Robert Hugh's mother was named Sarah? Do you have RHM's baptism? Sarah It is the further evidence part that I am struggling with. Leila looked it up at the GUildhall for me and there was no more evidence than was recorded on IGI. I have seen the recording of RHM's birth , I have RHM's marriage certificate and also his brother's marriage certificate - no clues there apart from the fact that he was called JOhn Thomas and was married to Sarah and he was an organ builder. I really appreciate your help as I think I'm getting to the point where I'm missing something very obvious and can't see the wood for the trees.

I assume that John Thomas Munro the organ builder is born in the 1820s? Do you know this from the 1871 census? This would at least give you a place of birth - Clerkenwell? If you don't have a census reference, you really need one. For all you know, John Thomas might have been born in Scotland. John Thomas does not seem to appear on the 1871 census so he may have died by then. I wish I could see the 1841 census as he might be there. I don't know where he was born and there are two possible marriages on IGI to a Sarah so it could be either of them. His children were born in 1825 so he could have been born sixty years earlier (as pointed out) just to confuse things!

I assume that John Thomas Munro the organ builder is born in the 1820s? Do you know this from the 1871 census? This would at least give you a place of birth - Clerkenwell? If you don't have a census reference, you really need one. For all you know, John Thomas might have been born in Scotland.

when i got to that stage,i used the IGI on familysearch site~and found quite a few that way.

I have traced my family as far back as a birth in 1826 that I have seen a certificate for and seen on the 1871 census. On the certificate I saw that the individual's father's name was John Thomas Munro, an organ builder livng in Clerkenwell with a wife named Sarah. I want to find John's birth certificate or a record of his birth and the name of his father and mother. Can anyone suggest where I should look next? I cannot find any provable reference to him on a census.