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INTESTATE DEATH IN MY FAMILY

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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 13 Sep 2009 18:46

I don't think they will tell him who it is before the other beneficiaries have been informed.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Sep 2009 18:52

I'm probably going to upset you now John, but I really don't mean to.

I think 67% of whatever the estate is is much better than 0% which is what you would have got if Hoopers hadn't done all the hard work of working out your family tree and then finding you.

If you've ever watched Heir Hunters you will have seen how much man power, time, petrol, hotel accomodation, certificates, etc. etc. goes into finding heirs. I think it is a bit much to call them leeches. They are a reputable firm and are allowed to name their price just as you have the right to do the work yourself. You are already finding out how hard it is.

Kath. x

Chelmerfella

Chelmerfella Report 13 Sep 2009 18:53

Hi Annielaurie. By law, Hoopers must declare to the treasury solicitor all beneficiaries located even if us other 3 siblings do not sign their agreement.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Sep 2009 19:01

Hi,

I really don't know how the system works, other than what I have seen on the TV. I would have thought that as soon as you are "signed" to 1 company they have a right to inform you who the person is........... surely this would be some part of a contractual obligation??

Maybe when your brother gets an idea of what inheritance he could be getting (minus his 33%) he may reconsider his actions.. especially if you and your other siblings offer to reimburse him 75% of the fees that he has lost???

You really need that name to claim for yourself.............. how damn frustrating for you!!! Talk about "carrott and stick", I think your hopes really are with your brother, even if his inheritance is £1000.00 losing £330.00 is alot compared to the £80.25 he could lose if he plays it your way.

I would definately put it to him, I don't see you have anything to loose that way were as he has alot more to loose. Why not say he could have his money and only have to fork out 8.25% in fees and see what he says???

Hope my maths are up to scratch. All the best, Dee x

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 13 Sep 2009 19:13

But then what does the Treasury Solicitor do? After all they wouldn't know who the beneficiaries were if Hoopers hadn't done their work, and what if they were wrong, as they occasionally are.

Chelmerfella

Chelmerfella Report 14 Sep 2009 22:17

Thanks to everybody.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 14 Sep 2009 22:59

you claim claim this yourself without a company to help you
get the government list and check it out
check the married ladies if its a lady on your tree
and their maiden names
and see if they are on the list
or negotiate a lower percentage
try another company have contacted you as the bargaining point
GOOD LUCK

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 14 Sep 2009 23:04

.bona vacantia
lists.is what you should be looking for to start with

Fendweller

Fendweller Report 14 Sep 2009 23:29

As I understand it, as soon as one heir is identified by the Bonavacantia department, the Treasury solicitor ceases to be involved. (I don't think it is necessary for all heirs to make a claim to the Treasury.) Letters of Administration then have to be obtained in the normal way as in the case of an intestate death where heirs are known. If your sibling successfully applies to the court and is granted the Letters of Administration he is obliged by law to distribute the estate in accordance with the Laws of Intestacy. ( He might then get Hoopers to act for him - I am sure they will offer - at a price!)
I would feel inclined to sit tight and you should get your share anyway.It might, however, have been necessary for one person to go via Hoopers in any event, because in this case there seems to be no other way of identifying the deceased - you could then have agreed to share the cost of the commission.
Marilyn

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 14 Sep 2009 23:38

I thought from watching the programme they tell the person who has died, before they sign up, they sometimes leave the letters with them to think about but I am sure they have already given the details.

Keep us posted, please - we are all curious now.

Lizx

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 15 Sep 2009 00:20

I remember someone at Fraser and Fraser on the television programme saying that they only tell the relative who the deceased is if it is a very close relative (like a sister, brother etc.) If it is a more distant relative they wait until the person has signed with them. Apparently they are quite within their rights to do this, as this is how they make their living and have often spent an awful lot of time and money before finding relatives - sometimes months and months of work for half a dozen people.

Kath. x

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 15 Sep 2009 03:04

I too feel they put a lot of work into tracing the beneficiaries and they might never know of the money if this didn't happen so it's only fair they get a cut.

Lizx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2009 04:34

OH got an inheritance about 20 years ago

It turned out to be from the surviving sister of 2 who had never married in their family but they had accrued quite an estate.

They wrote their will leaving money (in x number of parts of the estate) to each of their cousins (about 18 of them).

OH's father was one of the cousins, but as he was dead, his "part" was divided into two and passed onto OH and his sister.

We were all in Canada by that time ......... but fortunately there was a solicitor who was on the ball and managed to trace us over here.


it does seem that one-third is one h*ll of a lot for the company to claim!




sylvia