General Chat

~Lynda~, you for some reason have got a hate on for me. I have no idea why. I got to hear a little of the whole history back when there was that little "meet" on this side of the ocean earlier in the summer, and thought what a silly tale the whole thing was, and how unfair it sounded. I can see how there might have been more to it than it seemed, now ...

Thee and me have never really even been introduced. But you have been nothing but nasty in my direction whenever you've deigned to look this way. You're right. I know nothing about you. Except, of course, what you choose to say on these boards. Which you choose to say. And I'll choose to say what I like about what you choose to say. So you may as well stop telling me not to, eh?

I didn't contradict myself at all. I expressed my opinion about what you said. You told me what to do. See how they're not the same thing?

If one doesn't want to hear opinions about one's opinions, one really oughta keep them to one's self, is what I always say. One really just doesn't get to blat one's opinions and then tell someone who disapproves of them to shut up. I mean, one can do it if one likes. It just won't get one anywhere.

I have no idea why you think it necessary to attempt to disclose my identity every time you open your mouth in my direction. But I can tell you that when I have requested that site management delete posts in which that has been done, the posts have been deleted. So how's about you just edit that post of yours to remove the gratuitous effort to do that, and save me the trouble?

Blackboards using chalk were mostly done away with in UK for the sole purpose they were seen as heath hazzard to any young who suffer from breathing problems,,,,,dust from the chalk was seen as an aggravation to allergeys.
so more user friendly.....nothing at all to do with offending a race.!

It doesn't have to mean Mac said anything first. My ex walked into a pub in Brixton back in the 70's. The whole place fell silent and stared at him. He backed out of the door slowly, to jeers of Honky! White trash etc. He was terrified. He only wanted a packet of fags, and thought he'd have a pint while he was there.

Really! How odd. What did you say first?

Does that happen often Mac?

~Lynda~ ...

"Don't tell me what I can think, or say, I won't have it"

Ditto. Not exactly ditto, since I didn't tell you anything. So how about: don't tell not to do something I haven't done? Don't tell me what to do, period, should cover it. Or do. I don't really give a fig. I'll do what I like.


As Rose says: intent is all.

At one time, "black" was used to insult and denigrate, so the people who were being insulted and denigrated chose to be called "coloured". That term before long became a term of insult and denigration. So they rejected it and asked to be called something else. Etc.

If everybody would just stop being foul bigots and racists and using someone else's skin colour as a term by which to insult and denigrate them, there just wouldn't be a problem ...

And if people would put as much energy and concern into using language that doesn't insult as they put into defending their use of language that does insult ... who knows what might come to pass.

LOL Mick........ with integration,etc, it wont be another 70,000 years before things have resumed......LOL

I've just had my ancesral DNA tested.

Dont forget 70000 years ago we were ALL black and living in Africa!


xxxxxxxx mick

Janey my brother is black he has white parents and his skin is mid brown in the 70's he was called allsorts including "half-caste" which made him feel worse that he that he fit neither here nor there he calls himself black he struggles with "coloured" but accepts it from some well meaning people and being told to "go back to his own country" as he was born in England

Finlandia your attitude is not nice, but then I don't know you so will stay away from you in future ~ my bags are packed which country would you suggest I go "back" to?

I agree with Lynda (not cos we are pals) most people do not mean to be rude and have been taught different ways of addressing the issue

Like Lynda I grew up hearing the words 'black and coloured' and 'halfe caste' (and wireless and I'm not ever so old)... they were all accepted and acceptable terms...

My mum spent a lot of time working in US bases during the war, her friends there were 'black' or 'coloured' and didn't seem to mind either of those terms I presume... again there have been changes in what are considered to be the acceptable term to describe 'people of colour'...that one was in use maybe ten years ago ...I don't know if it is still 'OK' or not?

Personally I think it is more down to the 'intent' behind the usage of ANY phrase.... I could use the current acceptable term for someone and be as rascist as hell ...or I could use an out-moded expression and not have a rascist bone in my body.... just be using a term I grew up hearing...

you will have to take my word on which I am!

Janey,

What was said was never ever intended to be unpleasant or rude
Some of us were bought up to say words that we now find we have to change , nothing to say it is unpleasant .or rude.

Hope you eye surgery goes well & good luck

So ~Lynda~ ... and yer pals ...

If I have this right, you think it's "right" to say things that others consider rude and unpleasant.

Are we sure that some people don't just want to be rude and unpleasant, so they call what they're doing "right"? Who can argue with that, eh? This is right, that's a fact ...

Me being evidently older than you, I am off for my latest round of can't-go-wrong! eye surgery in about two hours ...

The answer to the original question,In my opinion is a resounding Yes. This country is being run by people who think that they can do what they like,when they like, and how they like. Its a case of the Tail Wagging the Dog,and most people(Of whatever Ethnic Gender) who actually LIVE in this country are sick of it.So being a Welshman,(True Briton) I,m going to pick "Blackberrys" from the top of my garden before the "Blackbirds" eat them all.Its just a pity that the post could,nt have been kept to the format it was originally intended to be. and not hyjacked.**M**.

~ Lynda~

You had said what thousands of people would like to say, and I couldn't agree with you more.

We must be the same age LOL

Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm in your post Janey? PMSL

I do agree though, it's ok for 'us' to emigrated where we damn well like, take what we want leaving local people worse off for us being there, but heaven help us when the boot is on the other foot eh?

We could do without BNP style racism on here, as Finlandia clearly is.

Hey Mick. My ancestors were born in England. Yours?

What say we pack up and go home? We're just stinking immigrants where we are now; surely nobody wants us.

I can bring three from my generation, one from the older generation, and three from the younger. And a couple of unlawful partners. Hm, one of the partners was born in Africa ... not sure whether we should bring him. I mean, he's "white" and all. Just not English.

And then there are cousins. Loads of them.

We should be able to muster up a couple of dozen or more people with ancestors born in England. Let's take 'em all home, I say. I hear there are some fine council accommodations on offer ...

Yes - I couldnt agree more!

Send all these reffos and immigrants back where they came from!
Chuck out all these Froggies and Normans and Angles and Saxons and Jutes and Danes and Vikiings and bloody Romans!

Britain for the Britons I say!

xxxxxx mick

Janey - I love your work!


xxxxxx mick

Funny what some people will call fact, in an effort to glorify their own totally ludicrous and at times quite obnoxious opinions.

(Why in the @*$& would anybody WANT to use an appalling term like "half-caste" in the first place???!?)

Bob thats not stictly true the school I work in has a mix of both depending on what part of the building you are in if its the old block yes we have black boards and use chalk if the new block its more hi-tech and its intereactive white boards but not coloured marker pens pupils are still led by example to use black pens, and I'm almost sure there are other schools dotted around the UK who still use both ~ at our sunday school we only have a black board and chalks and in places like ikea you can by both black boards and white boards x

FACT ~ people of darker skin pigmentation prefer to be refered to as black and find coloured highly offensive

FACT ~ Not allowed to use half-caste must use duel heritage regardless of whether they are single, duel or multi national ~ a teacher recently told my son he was of single heritage because he is white even though he knows for a fact that he's NOT

FACT ~ the world has gone mad trying NOT to offend people who were never offended in the first place but they are now x