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What a mix up, Kate. I had to read that twice!

That just reminded me of the mysterious "fifteen year gap" in my great-great grandma's family.

Her mum and dad married in 1862, aged 21 and 23 and produced babies in 1863, 1864, 1866, 1867, 1870 and 1875. Father was in prison in 1875 and 1881, but . . .

In 1891, there is a serious mix-up of names in this family. The only married daughter (Ada) was noted down as Edith, mum Ursula came up as Ada, the daughter Ursula was away from home working as a barmaid, daughters Polly and the real Edith (aged 16) are living at home but unmarried Laura (who had a ten day old baby, apparently) is missing (so is the baby), as is Edward her father and they have a "visitor" called Clara, who has become a "daughter" by 1901.

What this lot were up to I shudder to think, but I think there is some deliberate misrecording of names going on - I'd almost say it had been organised! All I do know is that Edith never married and we've got a group picture from about 1919 with Edith and Ada on it, as well as Ada's daughter (my great-grandma) and her children, and another unidentified woman who looks old enough (or young enough) to be Clara and is very like Edith! (Who was either born in Liverpool, Melling or "at sea", depending on the census you look at.)

My husband's granddad was born when his mum was 46. She'd been having babies for 30 years. Now if it turned out his great grandma was his great aunt.....no, I shall only give meself a headache.

I have heard many stories about mothers having babies every year or two for about 25 years - so nobody noticed who actually had the last few!
Many a grown daughter's baby was passed off as her brother or sister.

My mum once told me that, on a visit to her aunty, aunty remarked that my grandma had been one to . . . shall we say, "enjoy life" in her youth, which Mum promptly repeated to Grandma - Grandma's retort about my great-aint was, "Well, at least I didn't have to get married".

No. The first time Grandma got married, she didn't "have to". When my mum was on the way, her parents got married six weeks before she arrived - and Grandma always claimed that Mum was two weeks overdue! No wonder Grandma claimed she couldn't remember her wedding anniversary or how long she'd been married!

On my dad's side, I have found a family where three out of four generations of direct ancestors were pregnant at marriage. (Respectively, 6 months, 6 months again and 2 months! But my 3xgreats on that line waited respectably until about ten months after the wedding before their first was born.)

These poor old Nans! I bet they wish the granddaughter's hadn't started unearthing all this stuff!

my nans very straight laced but i found her marriage 1938 in november and my uncle was born 1st jan 1939 and even my mum didnt now that and nan said they lost there wedding pictures when they moved i bet she never had any lol
karen

After knowing what my Nan was like i was shocked to find that her parents married 14 years after she was born & she was the youngest.

Then Shock number 2 came.....My nan was 5 months pregnant when she married

Could there be more i wondered...so shock number 3 was finding out my Mum was pregnant when she married at 17
And to think what my Mum called me when i went on the pill at...22 & i didn't have my 1st child till is was 35 but i am an unmarried mother lololol

My g grandparents married in 1921 - just before the birth of their 9th child (my g grandmother's 10th child - her first was left with her parents in Suffolk) they had one other legitimate child who died aged 4.
On their wedding certificate she is a spinster (true) - he is a bachelor (false - he was a widower. They waited until wife No. 1 died).
My gran's first child was born 9 months after her marriage - but from letters between her and my grandfather, she had at least 3 'scares' during the year they were courting!
Mum was married at 17 and had her first child when she was 19.
I wore a 'big' dress when I married. My sister wore a smock top!!! LOL

As for my dad's side - both he and his younger sister's births were registered under my gran's maiden name. I haven't got dad's full cerificate yet (he never had a full one- just used the short one) as I've only just found his original registration - 16 years after his birth!

Marrying just before or just after the birth of a child, particularly in rural areas, was not as much of an issue as it would become towards the end of the 19th century.

Mum didn't like me taking my niece out in her pushchair because she had red hair like me! I was 17 when she was born. When I took her to see the girls at work they didn't believe she wasn't mine (there were a few sly smiles and nudges) and this was in the 1970's!

Hi Birdie,
I was once told they got pregnant before they married just to make sure they were fertile!

My Mum was shocked when I told her all I found out..

My Mum was like yours I was born 1 year and 1 mth after they married..
me and hubby we were married 1yr and 1mth after the birth of our first!! Like to be different..

Birds, my OH's grandmother was apparently a very strict, upright lady who wouldn't even let her grandchildren play in the street 'cos it was "common". She married 3 years after OH's dad was born.

Sue xx

My lot too. That includes a couple of "housekeepers" who suddenly became wives and produced a child not long after.

Sue xx

LOL - Secret Red Squirrel - I hadn't thought of that.

My grandmother was a real Victorian (1883-1977) and I was so amazed to discover she only married 5 months before the birth of her first! How naive was I!

Me too:) In my tree, if they weren't pregnant, they'd often already had children lol

If they could look forward, maybe they would have been surprised at her too :)

My mother was the first in her line to marry and NOT be pregnant on her wedding day for at least 200 years. Mum was rather disapproving of sex before marriage (that's putting it mildly) so I think she would be surprised at what I've discovered!

I think I've found more couples having children less than 9 months after the Happy Day, than not.