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we say lacky band...all thou I am surrounded by that many cock er nees its a wonder I dont lambeth walk to work....lol
Back slang wasnt just used by the crims it was used by barrow boys and traders as well....I read it in a book,

That's very true Stevie, there are two distinctly different accents in Essex, none more noticeable than in Braintree, right in the middle. The country accent is very similar to Suffollk, but not as broad as the north of Suffolk, which is more like Norfolk.

The other accent, what I call Sarf Essex, like mine, does come from movement of people from the east end, though that in itself was in Essex at one time. Its the industrialisation along the Thames Estuary, from Southend to Dagenham, where you'll find the Essex accent strongest. Similar to East London accent but sharper.

Funny thing is, when I lived there, I'd drop from Country Essex to Sarf Essex depending who I was talking to!

I think a lot of the cockney slang is put on .
Like any area or county each has its own accent, I come from London and yes there is a slight accent when i talk, but definitely not a cockney one. we don't all talk like that.
My mate old Foggs comes from the west end that has been mentioned, and he definitely is not a cockney, quite the opposite.

George

I'm born & raised in Essex........The Essex accent that most people associate with Essex, comes from the movement of people from the east end into Essex.
Not everyone talks in the eastend way. Many people have moved here from different parts of the country & theirs is added to the mix. So the accent, as here in Chelmsford varies.
The true Essex accent (which is hard to come across these days), is a country accent, similar to Suffolk..........oooo arrrr!

Steve
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I occasionally use a bit if the cockney slang like maz says you shorten the phrases and say lets have a butchers, in stead of butchers hook ect. I use the word gel quite a bit too. lol

I just sound common LOL !

(Born & lived in "Norf Lundun" , & lived for the past 17 years in Essex- Grandparents from Bethnal Green )

Born London live in Lincolnshire now but I get told off for saying Darnce and Barth lol

Mazzy what are you on about, Jean says wossname all the time, especially lately lol

Maz, my grandad always talked about bleedin' wossnames...and the funny thing was, we all understood perfectly WHICH bleedin' wossnames he meant lol

Yeah but when you go up west you have to put yer whistle on and have plenty of dosh in yer sky to treat the trouble, and if you miss the bus home, yer plates aint arf gonna hurt lol

Cant relate to any of these ,I was born in Souf East london but my mum was born in hackney we had lots of mum sayings like up in nannies room behind the clock when we asked where something came from ,or Ask no questions and hear no lies, OR somthing that stank was J arthur!!
Im sure there are many more but my senile mind has gone a bit blank!!

**blushes**

Claire had to send me a pm to explain....pmsl

Hayley ... the long version is J Arthur Rank - you can work it out ;-))

TW - wossnames makes me larf, ain't 'eard that fer a long time

my favourite illustration of how we REALLY talk is Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels - I just LOVE the language in that, effing and blinding included :-) and of course the wonderful Porridge :-))

and yes I do use bits n bobs of rhyming slang - never the whole thing tho, you wouldn't actually say "barnet fair" for instance (hair) but I always call it "me barnet" :-)

oh and we don't say gal, we say gel (with a hard g, not hair gel lol)

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ps yep, we go up West ... but not often cos we're usually potless and you need abaht a monkey to even fink abaht goin ...

whats a J Arthur.....I know you talk slower to me Teresa than what you do to Hagar...

Hayley - I do but only when i'm with my mum really. I understand more than I speak because I don't use it much.
My children don't really use it but they do know it and can if they want to. You don't really 'teach' the children. They just pick it up. To be honest they think it's funny to say the odd phrase and know that they cannot be understood.

Pat

Uggers I can go pink at the thought

cockney rythming slang is dying out there,s not many old uns left now any way i am off for a pig,s ear down the rudadub .

LOL Claire!

I don't have a London accent, it's an Essex accent, slightly different.

But my family are all Londoners, proper Eastenders, and they all talk like 'arry Rednapp...

My Grandad was a proper east end boy, with bleedin this and bleedin that and bleedin wossnames. We do use slang now and then, and fully understood what Tony posted. In fact it's so ordinary to me I read it twice before I realised he was illustrating slang PMSL.

In a crowded London office & with my VERY loud voice, I once asked a young lad what a J Arthur was