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If any one has a few minutes could you please have a look at a relative of mine: Frederick Richardson Ward born 28/07/1878 in Oldham with a brother named Harry Palmer Ward born 22/10/1876. Their father was John Ward but I have not further details, Mother was Emily Ann Palmer born 03/07/1859 at St Mary Oldham. Sorry no info on marriage or when/where John was born. Many thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this

Have you tried FreeBMD for births and marriage ,Plus you can look for them on the 1881 census which is also free to search on Family Search site

Here is the 1881 census (www.familysearch.org) (free site)

Fred seems to be with his mum, brother and grandparents

John Moss PALMER M Male 48 Bury, Lancashire, England Cotton Machine Fitter (Fact)
Violet PALMER M Female 45 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Adelaide Lee PALMER Female 16 Oldham, Lancashire, England Paper Bag Maker
Emily Ann WARD M Female 21 Oldham, Lancashire, England Cotton Reeler
Harry Palmer WARD Male 4 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Fred.Richardson WARD Male 3 Oldham, Lancashire, England

Dwelling 31 Windsor Rd
Census Place Oldham, Lancashire, England

This looks like their marriage

Marriages Mar 1876
PALMER Emily Oldham 8d 924
Warde John Oldham 8d 924

Emily is living at home with her parents on the 1881 census no John


Name: Emily Ann Ward
[Emily Ann Palmer]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Moss
Mother's Name: Violet
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 31 Windsor Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cotton Reeler

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Moss Palmer 48
Violet Palmer 45
Adelaide Lee Palmer 16
Emily Ann Ward 21
Harry Palmer Ward 4
Fred.Richardson Ward 3

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4074; Folio: 67; Page: 28;GSU roll: 1341974.

1891 census and harry is still with his grandparents
Name: Harry Palmer Ward
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Werneth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:31 Windsor Road

Occupation:Office Boy

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Moss Palmer 58 occ Cotton Machine-Fitter
Violet Palmer 55
Adelaide Palmer 26 occ dressmaker
Harry Palmer Ward 14


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3305; Folio 106; Page 31; GSU roll: 6098415.

Emily maybe!
Name: Emily Ann Ward
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 44
District: Prestwich
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 329

Many thanks for all of your help. Much appreciated.