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CSA, Fair System or Not?

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Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 17 Nov 2009 20:18

No case is trivial PUP...........have you tried to challenge how much they are asking for ? ..........they do expect folk to be put off by how complicated the tribunal system is........it might be in your interest to challenge them ?

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 20:12

Fair play, ............



Some shocking cases, sorry Ladies really am, makes mine seem trivial

Julie

Julie Report 17 Nov 2009 20:09

That's exactly what my OH does..I think his Ex is well peeved that she hasn't been able to break us up, cos i know that what she want...& she is peeved cos i have the one thing she hasn't got & thats my Boy

Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 17 Nov 2009 20:05

Your right Maggie ....yours isn't an isolated case and I'm so pleased that your situation has worked out well in the end .

When they get it wrong they get it horribly wrong .

My ex - partner committed suicide and the CSA was cited as one of the contributing factors . He was being taken to a tribunal by them as he said if he payed the amount they wanted each week he would never be able to afford to travel to see his children ( he had moved two hundred miles away )...........I informed them of his death . The tribunal went ahead anyway !! .......then I kept getting letters of them , the last one was two years after he had died.........it was the final straw and I got in touch with the press...............I got an apology ( phone call ) from some head honcho in Ireland ( their then Head office ) .

This was all 10 years ago , he has two beautiful Grandchildren now.....I am no fan of the CSA : ((

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 20:03

Dead right Julie, respect for that, its hard i know but i think it annoys her more that i pay it & stay happy about it. Thinks she wonders how much i really earn now

Julie

Julie Report 17 Nov 2009 20:00

Like i said..My OH pays £500 per month to his Ex for his 1 child, we also have 2 children..

It's a struggle, but i ain't going to let his ex see that

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:55

Shocking Maggie, Shocking

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 17 Nov 2009 19:52

Not fair at all PUP. My divorce etc was dealt with in the courts. All went well until the CSA loomed up.
As our situation had been dealt with by the courts, I was given the a letter to sign, so the CSA didn't interfere.
Then they (The CSA) wrote to me informing me that the government had decided no-one had the right to avoid the CSA.
Then the trouble started.
I asked why they were taking into account my ex's new wife's money - they were HIS children, not hers- 'Policy' was the answer.
They bled my ex - to such an extent that he had a nervous breakdown, and disappeared to Australia. All I knew was he was in Western Australia.
So.... money disappeared, children didn't see their father.

CSA quizzed me on his whereabouts - they didn't believe I didn't know where he was. He wrote to the children, and they wrote to him - but it was to a PO box.

CSA then told me if i didn't tell them where he was I would lose 6 weeks benefit each year ('punishment' I believe!) - but they would waver this if I signed a statement stating that he was violent and I was 'in fear of my life'!!!!
I asked them if they thought I was a fool - I wouldn't have allowed my children to see their father every other weekend if I was frightened of him. I was also not stupid enough to have a relationship with a violent person. Told them where to stick their money and spent the next 10 years on poverty income minus 6 weeks worth!
Did I tell the CSA when he returned? Would you?
My ex had been good friends - even after the divorce. CSA nearly put a stop to that!
Fortunately, he didn't blame me for what had happened - since then his second ex wife has bled him for all he was worth - and they never had children together!
However, my children are still very close to her two children (from her previous marriage).
Ex and I are still good friends, and I like his present partner.
All 4 of us (she has a 9 year old daughter form a previous relationship) can be seen sitting in a pub with children and grandchildren.

If the CSA had had their way, my children may never have seen their father again, and our grandchildren may never have known their 'Popa'

This is, of course, just one personal bad experience, but from what I've heard, It's not a isolated case.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2009 19:33

14 years and not had a penny.... we weren't married mindyou, but I do wonder how he has survived on 'no earnings' for those 14 years.... the CSA send me a standard letter every 6 months but that is all they have done for their money.

From the other side though I know the CSA tend to come down hardest on those 'easiest to get at' ie those who have already made arrangements and paid as much as they possibly could and been responsible.

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:32

I also have a little Girl who lives with me, but they said that doesnt get taken into account??????????? bet it would if i left my missus !!!

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 17 Nov 2009 19:30

how much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:29

I have always taken my responsibility serious with my son, but does it really cost that much amonth to feed & cloth him?

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:27

It does Whirley, i have to pay £338 a month even after signing the house over to her, she also has no mortgage now, what can i do, gotta pay it? !!

Julie

Julie Report 17 Nov 2009 19:26

Not..to the tune of £500 per month for 1 child..& the 2 we have, well i won't even go there

Whirley

Whirley Report 17 Nov 2009 19:25

well that doesn't sound fair Pup...

With my step-daughter's and my OH's ex....we sorted the financial stuff out between us so thankfully, we never had to involve the CSA. Have heard of some awful cases in the past tho where people were expected to pay extortionate amounts per month for their kids. They should base any money that needs to be paid for whoever's kids, by the ability to pay/how much they can feasibly afford to pay. If that makes sense...

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:19

They dont take into account the Mother & new partners wage, but take into account the Fathers & New partners

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 17 Nov 2009 19:13

sometimes it is, somtimes it isnt
every case is diferent xxx

PompeyForever

PompeyForever Report 17 Nov 2009 19:12

I have experience on this subject, do you think the system is Right?