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The other day in smiths I was flicking through one of the magazines on the shelf.
A short item in there was commenting on a decision to allow the details of deceased people to be accessible, in regard to those deceased people who carried the card during the second world war.
Discussions are apparently still under way.
I for one would welcome the news, I believe I have an ancestor who was buried in nottingham in 1948 in a public grave, there is no post mortem or inquest information available, I have contacted the coroner who confirmed this.
Ironically they had his age spot on for when I know he was born.
Apparently, according to the local paper, attempts to find a NOK were not successful, he was discovered drowned in the River Trent.
I am curious whether they found out his name etc; from his National Identity Card which he would have been eligible to carry.
Maybe the information on the card would help me tie up one mystery I have at the moment regarding my research.
Do other members feel if the decision is made to release the information it would be a good one?
Cheers.
William.
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Any extra means of identifying ancestors would be welcome I am sure to those interested in researching family history.
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I have just been reading up on the information that was on the cards.
Aswell as a photo, there was the home address, and each time a person moved the address had to be officially logged on the card.
Looks like it would be a great idea to make the information available.
William.
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Hi William
this link has an image of an NRIC and the information it contains
( also lots of other interesting wartime images )
http://www.blackcountrygenealogyandfamilyhistory.co.uk/10852.html
It can be found half way down the page or by entering
National Registration in the search box.
edit....I see you have found the information needed :-)
edit again.
I have just looked at one I have tucked away ( not mine lol ) apparently children were named on the Father's ID card ( 1950 anyway )
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I have my National Registration Identity Card here in front of me. It says 'Under sixteen Years' at the bottom and there is no photo. It has my NHS number on it, my name (first name only in full), address and the date it is valid to. 2 Changes of address are noted and my mother's signature is on the back. The issue date stamp in 1947 shows I was 2 weeks old.
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Mine (a child's) didn't have a photo on it.
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Ref photos on Identity cards
I have 4 of these cards relating to my family, from the 1940s, and none of them have photos, nor is there any place where a photo could be inserted.
So i wonder did any ever have photos? i have never seen any reference to photos on identity cards.
George
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Children's ID cards for passport in the 80's were of a similar design. They had Photo's.
I wonder why the ID card I have has the child's name as well as the Father's, as clearly, from posts on the thread so far, each child had their own card. It is the Father's card and not the son's. Hmmm!
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I still have mine. No photo, just age and address, which was last updated at the first hospital I worked at in 1951. In 53, I was in the army and had a pay book, which didnt have a photo either. Photo cards came out for troops about 55. Ghastly photo too!
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http://www.cartoons.ac.uk/record-image/thumb/GACE00128
Some did appear to have photographs on them.
If you google the topic title into google images there are plenty there.
Rita, I suppose it depends what you are looking for when you say you dont know how it would help.
In my case, again depending on what the information is we are allowed, it could bring closure in one of my searches, for what happened to my grandfather.
If through me giving a date and place of death of someone I believe to be an ancestor, who would have had to carry the card, I establish an address on the card that would help me a lot.
As with everything, horses for courses I guess.
William.
William.
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got mine still - brown, no photograph - XLAR 45.3 - a number which later became your NHS number.
apart from name and address and an official rubber stamp, the only words are "do nothing with this card until you are told" Still waiting!!
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Hi Rita, the address information would be on the Identity card, along with a date of birth.
I will elaborate a bit if I can.
My late dad and his sister were placed into homes at a very young age.
I know when my grandfather was born, have his birth certificate.
Also have the marriage certificate from when they were married in 1919.
Grandfather was born in Chiswick, from what little my dad was able to tell me I know I have the right person so far as the 1901 census is concerned.
My grandfather enlisted into the Army but was discharged on medical grounds, Heart problems.
When I was younger, around 14/15 at the time, dad would bore me to death ( sorry dad ) with his stories :-)
He gave me names, he mentioned that one of the family worked in a bank, this in my research was found to be correct.
He gave me a surname of a guy that his aunt married, he said that he worked at wormwood scrubs as a prison officer, during my research this was proven true.
Anyway, basically, dad never knew he had a sister until he had left the orphanage in Enfield.
And likewise his sister knew nothing of his existence.
In trying to find a death entry for my grandfather I went through the death entries on ancestry, where I have subs, in searching I had an idea of the age he would be at any given time.
During the searching I came across a link to a death in Nottingham, but the back of my mind I thought it could not be him, because he was a londoner.
But the year 1948 and age 57 were spot on for the information I had regarding his birth.
I put this on the burner until I searched as far forward as I could feel he would still be alive.
In the end the Nottingham link was hard to ignore.
I sent off for the death certificate, thinking that it would just be a straight forward heart attack or whatever.
When the certificate arrived it transpired that this guy had been found drowned in the River Trent near the City Ground.
The address given at the time of his death was 700 hucknall road, I later found out that this was the old hospital.
I enquired about his burial place and was informed he was buried in a public grave in Northern Cemetery.
I later found a reference to the post mortem/inquest in the Local Paper from Nottingham, it stated the chief constable as saying that they had been unable to trace relatives.
As I mentioned, I have been in contact with the Coroner with no luck.
I could well be wrong, but that gut feeling you get when you know you have something 99.9% ?
I really am at a brick wall in trying to find out what happened to my grandfather other than what I feel, taking account of the information I have.
As I say, he would have been expected to carry the card.
How did the police know his name? his age? when they were not able to trace relatives?
That information would have been on the card.
Maybe I am clutching at straws, who knows?
Thats what makes this hobby so intrigueing :-)
Thanks Rita.
William.
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