General Chat

Hi patchem,

Just having a quick coffee before I scoot off.


I know what you mean, and it seems that making pancakes is a British tradition of celebrating Shrove Tuesday. Maybe because you could have both sweet and savoury fillings???

Other countries celebrate with different foodstuffs. The link Joy gave above is quite good at explaining things.

Hope this helps, but I am not an eggspurt...... :-D :-D

so many reported postngs, yet none of them offensive in any way at all :-S :-S

Surely if you want to use up the 'rich foods' you would make cakes, not pancakes?
If eggs and milk, then make custards.
If eggs and butter, cakes.
This has always perplexed me.

I WAS in bed Supercrutch, and I'm sorry that the posts have been RR'd.

Anyone is welcome to make a contribution even when the comments are an attempt to annoy the OP or to distract from the topic being discussed.

I would be quite happy for them to be re-instated.



John, I see you have been googling again - I'm sure Methodists must observe Lent but maybe not in the tradition of Anglicans or Roman Catholics. The tradition of eating pancakes stems from the time when all the rather 'rich' foods in the house, eggs etc., were eaten up before the start of fasting for Lent.


I have to admit to being a dreadful 'faster'. To counteract this, rather than 'give something up for Lent', I try to 'take something up' and will either do something extra (go the extra mile for someone) or will discipline myself to read and learn more about the season.


Now I had better check someone has had his meds and start the process of getting ready for 'you-know-where'. ;-)

Whoohoo someone has been busy whilst they thought we were in bed :-D

Why has Hayley's recipe for pancakes been reported? It was relevant to the topic as Pancake ( Shrove) Tuesday was being discussed.

Shrove Tuesday (Pancake Day). is from shrive apparently. Shrive is to confess, to obtain absolution for sins before the fasting season of Lent (which starts with Ash Wednesday).

Mardi Gras (Fat Tuesday) in French
Dydd Mawrth Ynyd (Shrive Tuesday) in Welsh
Mairt Inide in Irish

In England, towns hold traditional Shrove Tuesday "mob football" games. Think these include Alnwick in Northumberland, Ashbourne in Derbyshire (called the Royal Shrovetide Football Match), Atherstone (called the Ball Game) in Warwickshire, Sedgefield (called the Ball Game) in County Durham, and St Columb Major (called Hurling the Silver Ball) in Cornwall. Confirmation would be good if anybody lives nearby.

Pancakes are at the very centre, and I am grateful that Hayley has contributed her recipe in a timely fashion. The most famous pancake race is Olney in Buckinghamshire (M1 J14), which has been held since 1445. Rev John Newton ("Amazing Grace") was Rector there in 18th century.

The race is followed by a service in Olney parish church. :-)

I've used that site quite a bit in the past Joy......it has some interesting articles on it.

I used to lead occasional assemblies and was always on the lookout for good sites to help me out.


Goodnight all. :-)

You're welcome. I love pancakes :)

I like this school site:
http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/shrove.html

Thank you for the interesting link Joy. :-D


Must admit that I am also looking forward to Shrove Tuesday.....purely for the pancakes.... :-D

My OH is a super pancake maker....well, he was. Just hoping he can make some this year although he does tire quite quickly now.

http://www.theholidayspot.com/ash_wednesday/customs_tradition.htm

Thank you Cynthia and John.

John, the ash marks our commitment to Christ as we remember that He died for our sins.


I love the words which are used as the cross is marked on the forehead...

"Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return. Turn away from sin and be faithful to Christ."

It was an old Jewish custom. Prophet Isaiah mentions it (Is Chap 58 v 5). Jews would fast, put on this old flax-type garment and cover their face with ashes to show how wretched and sinful they felt.

Not sure how it connects to modern Christianity, but a lot of the Jewish symbolism continued down through the ages :-)

Hi Ann yes, it's all part of the same symbolism.......repentance of our sins and looking forward to forgiveness. :-)

Cynthia is that any connection to 'sack cloth and ashes?'

Not being Anglican I don't know.

Hard to believe that it's nearly Lent.........Ash Wednesday is looming already. :-S


I love the season of Easter more than Christmas. It always seems so hopeful and exciting.


Many churches will hold a service on Wednesday and some will include the Imposition of Ash - where the priest places the sign of the cross in ash on the communicants' foreheads.


Unfortunately, they don't do this at the church we are at now, but it used to happen at a previous church and I was never ashamed to be seen wearing the ash.


For Christians, the ashes are used as a sign of our mortality and the repentance of our sins.

It is a reminder to us that we all come from ashes, and to ashes we will return.

I also think it would have been the decent thing not to hijack this thread, Cynthia has posted on it in good faith ( literally) and kept it going for those who wish to read.

I don't suppose it's any good me asking as a 'friend' that all irrelevant posts are removed? by the sensible compassionate posters who are 'better than this'. Please? for Cynthia's sake and others who may have enjoyed the thread for its original topic.

this is a very specific thread I feel...like gardening and bird watching, they do veer off topic...but are not DELIBERATELY taken over as 'tit for tat'.

Sorry Sue .. :-D :-D

Lolol Hazel that HURT!!!!!!!!!!!