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Hi, my name is Elizabeth (known as Liz) Docker and I’m the daughter of Beatrice Joan Hales (her name changed from Hall to Hales and her maiden name was Cole). I believe that I have relatives, on my mother’s side, in Australia, either paternal (Cole) or maternal (Lockyer). My husband and I plan to visit Australia in the next few years and we would very much like to meet with some of my relatives. I would be most grateful for any information/photographs that you may have. Best regards and I look forward to hearing from you. Liz

Hi, further to my previous post I now know the following. I am looking for the Rye family starting with Edith Joan (maiden name Harman) and her husband Leslie, both have probably died by now. We think that they had children and have discovered a brief mention of William John Rye and Patricia Ann Rye. They all appear to be based in the Brisbane area, last known address was 15 Tina Street, Radland Bay, Queensland, Australia 4165. Many thanks. Liz

Afraid this site just doesn’t have people who will come along and say we are related

Have you tried looking for info on sites like Ancestry

Also if you have some name you can look in members trees to see if anyone has them listed and can then try to make contact by sending a message through the find out more box

What about Facebook have you tried there . You would want names though so you would need to research your tree first

Just taking a quick look and this is her birth

Sep 1913
COLE Beatrice J Lockyer Wandsworth 1d 1070

So if you look on freebmd using the surname combination you can check is she had any siblings

Seems to have several siblings

Her marriage

Marriages Mar 1936
Cole Beatrice J Hall Surrey N.E. 2a 223
Hall Roland Cole Surrey N.E. 2a 223

So if you don’t know the grandparents names the father should be on the marriage cert

This MIGHT be Beatrice's parents.
Edmund and Elizabeth married in Wandsworth area in 1905

1911 census

Name: Edmund Goad Cole
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Westminster, London, England
Civil Parish: Kingston on Thames
County: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 6 Gordon Road, Kingston on Thames
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Master Printer
Registration district: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40


Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 3499
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Goad Cole 31
Elizabeth Louisa Cole 32
Mabel Elizabeth Cole 3
Harold Edward Cole 1

Use freebmd to find siblings of Beatrice, then follow each family member forward to find the Australia link

Two brothers still in the U.K.


Lewis J F Cole's life in 1939
6 Fairfield Road, Kingston-Upon-Thames M.B., Surrey, England

Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Sidney W Belcham 21 Feb 1891 Male Master Shoe Maker Married 75 1
Jenny D Belcham 21 May 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 75 2

The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?

Vera J Knott (Belcham) 12 Feb 1929 Female At School Single 75 4
Walter J Cole 15 Feb 1920 Male Butchers Assistant Single 75 5
Lewis J F Cole 27 Jul 1917 Male Engineer (Capstan Operator) Married 75 6


Lewis marriage

Jun 1939
Belcham Doris J Cole Surrey N.E. 2a 421
Cole Lewis J F Belcham Surrey N.E. 2a 421

You can follow up on freebmd for any children they may have had


Use freebmd too to follow up the other siblings

sibling


birth
Florence Mary Lockyer
Registration Year
1880
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district
Wandsworth
Parishes for this Registration District
Wandsworth
Inferred County
London
Volume
1d
Page
673

Name: Florence Mary Lockyer
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 26
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 26 Sep 1907
Marriage Church: Queens Road Wesleyan Methodist Chapel
Marriage Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Father: Richard Lockyer
Spouse: Fred Thomas Harman

1881census

Richard Lockyer
Age
24
Estimated Birth Year
abt 1857
Relationship to Head
Head
Spouse
Louisa Lockyer
Gender
Male
Where born
Ottery, Devon, England
Civil parish
Battersea
County/Island
London
Country
England
Street Address
34 Morrison St
Marital Status
Married
Occupation
General Labourer
Registration district
Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel
63
Piece
651
Folio
90
Page number
38
Household Members
20977923
Household Members

NameAge
NameRichard Lockyer
Age24
NameLouisa Lockyer
Age23
NameElizabeth Lockyer
Age2
NameFlorence Lockyer
Age1

Florence Harman
Age
29
Birth Year
abt 1881
Place of Origin
London, England
Ship Name
Rippingham Grange
Port of Departure
London, England
Port of Arrival
Brisbane
Arrival Date
24 Apr 1910



Name
Florence Mary Harman
Death Date
23 Jun 1920
Death Place
Queensland
Father's Name
Richard Lockyer
Mother's Name
Louisa House
Registration Year
1920
Registration Place
Queensland
Registration Number
B032261
Page number
673

Florence mary Lockyer
Child
Edith joan Harman
Registration Number
B053015
Household Members



Name: Florence Mary Harman
Death Date: 1920
Cemetery: South Brisbane Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Brisbane, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio?: N
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem

Name: Edith joan Harman
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1918
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1918
Registration Place: Queensland, Australia
Father: Fred thomas Harman
Mother: Florence mary Lockyer

Name: Edith J Harman
Arrival Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1919
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 18 May 1939
Port of Arrival: Hull, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane; Newcastle; Sydney; Hobart; Melbourne; Adelaide; Fremantle; Colombo; Aden; Port Said and Malta
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 130169
Search Ship Database: Search for the Moreton Bay in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

1939
Name: Edith J Harman
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1918
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 105
Residence Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Visitor From Australia
Schedule Number: 99
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: LGOS
Registration district: 446/1
Household Members:
Name
Cyril T Whitfield
Eva Whitfield
Fred T Harman
Margaret Harman
Edith J Harman ..

Name: Edith Joan Harman
Gender: Female
Electoral Date: 1943
Electoral Place: Windsor, Lilley, Queensland, Australia

looks like sister edith ellen married fred's brother
Name: Edith Ellen Lockyer
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 25
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1909
Marriage Church: Queens Road Wesleyan Methodist Chapel
Marriage Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Father: Richard Lockyer
Spouse: Walter Genlee Harman

Name: Edith Harman
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1885
Place of Origin: London, England
Ship Name: Rippingham Grange
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1910

Name: Walter Gentle Harman
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1919
Electoral Place: Nambour, Lilley, Queensland, Australia

must have returned
Name: Halter Harman
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Apr 1886
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 7
Residence Place: East Ham, Essex, England
Occupation: Builder Yoeman
Schedule Number: 33
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: CAQJ
Registration district: 188a-2
Inferred Spouse: Edith E Harman
Household Members:
Name
Halter Harman
Edith E Harman

Name: Fred Thomas Harman
Death Date: 22 Jul 1944
Death Place: Queensland
Father's name: Thomas
Mother's name: Mary Ann Pepper
Registration Year: 1944
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B067133
Page Number: 971

Lewis Lockyer
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Mary Gelately McIntyre
Marriage Date: 18 Dec 1912
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Number: B012631
Page Number: 15389

1881
Name: Lewis Lockyer
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Richard Lockyer
Mother: Louisa Lockyer
Birth Place: Battersea, London, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Search Photos: Search for 'Battersea' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Ascension
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors:
Piece: 448
Folio: 17
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lockyer 44
Louisa Lockyer 43
Elizah Lockyer 22
Edd E Lockyer 16
Lily R Lockyer 14
Lewis Lockyer 13
Annie G Lockyer 10
Edel Lockyer 8
Elsie Lockyer 5
Ernest R Lockyer 3
Mabel C Lockyer 5/12
Florence Lockyer 20

Name: Lewis Lockyer
Residence Place: Lismore
Death Date: 21 Jun 1956
Occupation: Pensioner

Name: Lewis Lockyer
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1888
Place of Origin: London, England
Ship Name: Orontes
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1908

The "QLD State Library' (on-line) has an 'Ask A Librarian' service.
They will check their records incl electoral rolls (past & present) & newspaper death notices.
With compulsory voting in Aus we ALL have to be 'on the rolls' from 2yrs of arrival.

The 'RYERSON INDEX' (on-line) has newspaper death notices to present day -if you find name/s of interest the (QLD) librarian/s will check newspaper/s for family names.

Valerie
WAus

Hi Liz
Have you anything further to add to this? - Or do you still need help?

Valerie

Valerie

As with the poster's other thread, I don't think you'll be getting any feedback.

I sent a PM advising of info posted. It has been read, but not acknowledged.