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the Long family Waterford, Ireland

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Tracey

Tracey Report 4 Apr 2022 14:55

looking for any info on relatives of Thomas and Mary Long (nee O Brien/Ryan) form Waterford in Ireland
they had at least 10 children we have details of and one of these is our maternal grandmother Catherine Long, born in 1914
she had no contact with her family as an adult and was known to her family as Kathleen Bartlett - her marriage certificate notes John Bartlett, a Stevedore as her father,
after her death we found her birth certificate naming her as Catherine Long, mother Eliza Long born in Waterford Ireland. still the same date of birth.

we would like to find out about her real family or even the Bartletts who brought her up


any help gratefully received as this has been a puzzle for years

carolyn Thomas

Kay????

Kay???? Report 4 Apr 2022 15:47

Name Catherine Long
Birth Date Oct - Dec 1914
Birthplace Waterford, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1914
Registration District Waterford
Volume Number 4.

her birth registration.?

Edit----Did Thomas and Mary have a daughter old enough to be Catherines un-married mother?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2022 16:13

Have you looked at the Irish 1901 and 1911 censuses? They are free to all

Who/when/where did she marry?

What leads you to believe that Kathleen Bartlett is the same person as Catherine Long?

As you have chosen this board for your post, what are you hoping for?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2022 16:41

The 1911 Irish census has NO Thomas Long with wife Mary in Waterford

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2022 16:43

1901?

Residents of a house 17 in Johnstown (Waterford Urban No. 4, Waterford)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Long Thomas 55 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Long Mary 44 Female Wife Roman Catholic
Long Owen 25 Male Son Roman Catholic.........widower
Corcoran Bridget 23 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Long Kate 17 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Long William 20 Male Son Roman Catholic
Long Thomas 15 Male Son Roman Catholic
Long Hannah 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Long Elizabeth 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Long Mary 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Long Ellen 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Corcoran Mary 6 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic
Corcoran Stephen 3 Male Grand Son Roman Catholic

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2022 16:47

I think this may be the birth posted by Kay????


SR District/Reg Area - Waterford
Birth of CATHERINE LONG on 29 September 1914
Name CATHERINE LONG
Date of Birth 29 September 1914
Group Registration ID 1154307
SR District/Reg Area Waterford
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname LONG

Born in Union Hospital.
No father's name given.
Mother: Eliza Long, "daughter of labourer from Smith's Lane"
Informant: James Cosgrave, occupier, Workhouse.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 4 Apr 2022 18:16

So Elizabeth could have been the mother,?as per 1901 Irish census.


Maybe Catherine wasnt brought up within the Long family.?

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Apr 2022 18:39

Name Thomas Long
Sex Male
Age 24
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Father's Name William Long
Spouse's Name Mary Brien
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 18
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Spouse's Father's Name John Brien
Marriage Date 8 Oct 1869
Marriage Place Cork, County Cork, Ireland
Marriage Place (Original) Cork, Cork
Thomas Long's Parents and Siblings
William Long
Father
M

Tracey

Tracey Report 4 Apr 2022 19:45

thank you for all the above replies - we do have all the information given already but can't find any mention of relatives since she, Catherine Long, was born. She had no contact at all with any member of her own family and we can only guess that she was brought up outside of her family. we have found her mother Elizabeth and her father William Ryan, and Elizabeth's 9 siblings along with some of their spouses and children but nothing after 1940

what we are hoping for is that someone from her family may know something about the circumstances of her early life and possibly help us to trace living family members.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2022 22:15

Just for our reference:

Elizabeth's marriage less than a month after Catherine's birth:

SR District/Reg Area - Waterford
Marriage of WILLIAM RYAN and ELIZABETH LONG
on 13 October 1914
Party 1 Name WILLIAM RYAN
Party 2 Name ELIZABETH LONG
Date of Event 13 October 1914
Group Registration ID 1750232
SR District/Reg Area Waterford

Elizabeth's address: Stephen Street.
Father: Thomas Long, labourer.