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Sidney Dennis Holland

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Charles

Charles Report 22 Jul 2017 21:24

We are trying to trace any information regarding my wife's grandfather who has not been traced since about 1953. The details we have are very sparse. Born about 1907 in London, Fathers name William. Married Gwendolyn Saw in 1932 in Aylesbury (Marriage Register Oct/Nov/Dec 1932 Vol 3a page 2593)
Served in Royal Artilliary Lance Bombadier,
Army No 2299733 in Korea in 1953 Believed to have lost a leg in around 1968.
Any information would be appreciated or suggestions if army records can be accessed. Many thanks.

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2017 22:05

Welcome to the boards Charles

Sidney and Gwen showing on the 1939 register which gives DOB's

Holland Household (2 People)
60 Camrose Avenue , Harrow U.D., Middlesex, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Sidney D Holland 30 Mar 1907 Male Provision A? Grover Married 41 1
Gwendoline ? (E) Holland (Cabreay) 02 Apr 1911 Female H D Married 41 2

(The name in brackets for Gwen is Colbreay on original, indicating she remarried, possibly 1951 ish or before, but not seeing a marriage in England/Wales. Possibly reverted to Holland 1959 or before. The dates in the margin indicate when the register was altered, not necessarily the date of the event)
Her initials are ZE
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So this looks to be Sidney's death (DOB matched 1939 register)
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) SIDNEY DENNIS
Last name HOLLAND
Gender Male
Birth day 30
Birth month 3
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1987
District Surrey South Western
Register number 887
County Surrey
Volume 17
Page 1048

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jul 2017 23:21

Have a look here to see how to apply for army records:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

They cost £30 and take quite a while to arrive - possibly months.

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Jul 2017 11:07

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29 Morris Road Poplar E, Poplar Borough, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Henry Holland Head Married Male Engineer's Labourer 51 1860 Manchester Lancashire
Ruth Elizabeth Holland Daughter Single Female Skirt Machinist 21 1890 Greenwich
Charles William Holland Son Single Male Office Boy 15 1896 Greenwich
Eleanor Louise Holland Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Greenwich
Grace Hilda Holland Daughter - Female - 11 1900 Poplar London
Sidney Dennis Holland Son - Male - 4 1907 Poplar

William says he has been married 27 years, had 11 children but 3 have died since birth

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Jul 2017 12:32

Same family 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Clutton Street, London, Bromley, Poplar, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Henry Holland Head Married Male 42 1859 Dock Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England
Alice Maud Mary Holland Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Chatham, Kent, England
Gladys Gwendoline Holland Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Greenwich, Kent, England
Ruth Elizabeth Holland Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Greenwich, Kent, England
Charles William Holland Son - Male 5 1896 - Greenwich, Kent, England
Eleanor Louisa Holland Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Greenwich, Kent, England
Hilda Grace Holland Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Poplar, Middlesex, England

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and 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Glenister Road, Greenwich, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Holland Head Married Male 32 1859 Retort Door Fitter Gas Works Lancashire, England
Alice M M Holland Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Chatham, Kent, England
Alice M L Holland Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Ramsgate, Kent, England
Gladys G Holland Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Kent, England
Edith Holland Daughter Single Female 4 1887 - Kent, England
Ruth E Holland Daughter Single Female 1 1890 - Kent, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Jul 2017 12:43

? This marriage (Thanet RD covers Ramsgate where daughter Alice born)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
HOLLAND William Henry Thanet 2a 1378 <<<<<<
KIRBY Alice Maud M Thanet 2a 1378 <<<<<<
LEWIS Mary Ann Thanet 2a 1378
Steed Edward Stephen Thanet 2a 1378

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Jul 2017 12:54

Births/deaths found so far - Children surname Holland, mother's maiden name Kirby

Can be found on - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HOLLAND, ALICE MAUD LILIAN KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in THANET Volume 02A Page 930

HOLLAND, GLADYS GWENDOLINE KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1072

HOLLAND, EDITH KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1101

HOLLAND, RUTH ELIZABETH KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1064

HOLLAND, GERTRUDE KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1085

HOLLAND, WILLIAM KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1168

HOLLAND, CHARLES WILLIAM KIRBY
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1148

Deaths
Name: Age at Death (in years)
HOLLAND, GERTRUDE 2
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 693

HOLLAND, WILLIAM 2
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 600
(birth reg Q1 1893 but could have been born last 6 weeks of 1892)

Haven't found birth reg's for the following as yet but they are on census

Eleanor Louisa 1896/7 - said to be born Greenwich
Hilda Grace 1899/1900 - said to be born Poplar
Sidney Dennis 1906/7 - said to be born Poplar

That makes only 10 births so far and 2 deaths