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Herbert Allen Cooper 1893 - 1917

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Ann

Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 12:14

Update
Have placed a request for information from The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment

Many thanks for everyone's help

Ann

Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:19

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++ :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:16

This is a good site for a potted history of regimental movements, battles etc. It also has a section about medals & their qualifying dates.

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk

Regimental diaries are on the National Archives, May be linked to Ancestry. Although he probably won’t be mentioned by name, you could find the entry for the day he died.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:12

Medal card

Herbert Allan Cooper
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Acting Company Sergeant Major
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number: 17236
Previous Units: 6 N Lan R 17236 A/W.O Class II

Also awarded 15 Star. First entered a Theatre of War (Balkans) 14/11/1915

Ann

Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:09

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++ will take a look

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Oct 2017 11:06

Have you checked the CWGC site? It might be the same thing. There’s nothing extra to add
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1656415/cooper,-herbert-allen/

Over 70% of WW1 records were destroyed during WW2. Those which survived are listed on the National Archives with links to Ancestry. Medal cards were kept elsewhere- you can sometimes work out the ‘when’ if not the ‘where’. Regimental histories free on line can fill in some of the gaps.

Ann

Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 11:04

Thank you Maddie a great help :-) :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Oct 2017 11:02

Herbert Allen
Last name Cooper
Service number 17236
Rank A/c.S.M.
Regiment Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Battalion 6th Battalion.
Birth place Bolton
Residence Horwich, Lancs
Enlistment place Bolton
Death year 1917
Death day 15
Death month 2
Cause of death Killed in action
Death place Mesopotamia
Theatre of war Asiatic Theatres
Supplementary Notes -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None


in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Herbert Allen Cooper
Gender: Male
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Death Place: Mesopotamia
Rank: Acting Company Sergeant Major
Regiment: Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number: 17236
Other Records: Search for 'Herbert Allen Cooper' in other WWI collections

executor and uncle thomas chisnall
£5 17s 5d

Name: Company Serjeant Major Herbert Allen Cooper
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Cemetery: Basra Memorial
Burial or Cremation Place: AL Basrah, Basra, Iraq
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...


probate
of 14 melbourne grove horwich sgt 6th battalion royal lancs fusillers
to thomas chisnall school attendane officer
£98 5s 3d
Name: Herbert Allen Cooper
Death Date: 15 Feb 1917
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Probate Date: 15 Jun 1917
Registry: London, England

army record not on fmp or ancestry so may have been destroyed in ww11 bombing

Ann

Ann Report 6 Oct 2017 10:27

Herbert Allen Cooper ACSM.
No. 17236
6th Battalion, The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment.
Killed in Action: 15/02/1917
Death Place: Mesopotamia

Wondering does anyone have access to Forces War Records, and could possibly give me details of any information on Herbert contained in the following document
"Memorial Register 38 Part 1 Basra Memorial, Iraq, A - C"

Also looking for any other information in connection with his Military Service or where I might obtain information.

Many thanks
Ann