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Joan V Dries is on ER until 1959 per Ancestry:

Joan V Dries
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: Joan V Dries
Year: 1959
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Barons Court
Street address: 137 Hammersmith Grove <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Same address as Richard - but Joan V Sinclair is there as well.

Could she be entered on ER twice with different surnames??.

So they didn't marry- death registered in Sinclair and Dries surname:

First name(s) JOAN VERA
Last name DRIES
Gender Female
Birth day 17 November 1919
Death quarter 1
Death year 2004
District Hammersmith & Fulham
District number 260/1
Register number HF4A
Entry number 139
Date of registration mm/yy 0104

Thanks all
Now I know who Joan was.
I will have to get a copy of the Marriage cert of RFS to Edith J Miles in Sept 1939, I still haven't found her or RFS on 1939 register.

Got marriage cert for Richard Francis Sinclair and Edith Joan Miles.
Confirmed it is my RFS but once again the copy is so bad.
What I can make out is RFS aged 20, Trooper, Life Guards,No 295205, residence: Knightsbridge Barracks, Westminster.
RFS father is Harry Sinclair, but can make out his Occ?
Would like a second opinion if anyone would like to see it and maybe make more sense of it, I would be most grateful.
Any help with service no,Trooper, Life Guards or barracks in 1939 would be great too.

I am ex WRAF and have just looked through this thread.

Alarm bells have just gone off. A rank of trooper in 1939 - this is the lowest rank in the Life Guards.

Flt Lt is the 3rd rank of an officer in the RAF, Pilot Officer at first then Flying officer before Flight Lieutenant by 1942.

You may be following 2 people here, it's not impossible but unlikely that someone in the lowest rank of the army so rapidly becomes quite a senior ranked officer in the RAF.

I am not saying you are wrong just be aware that these could be 2 different men.

War however does make things happen that wouldn't normally happen. The RAF did have SNCOs (senior non commissioned officers) e.g. sergeants as aircrew. I would expect this a more likely route for someone of the rank of trooper if he transferred to the RAF.

:-)

Nicola -

are you still sure that the RFS who died in 1978 is your man? Or was that the other RFS?

You said you had a service record for the wrong one. Have you sent for the record of the right one yet?
It will take several weeks to arrive.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364951

(seems to be on above, with below added)

Chris :)


Chris Ho :) Report Edit Delete 26 Feb 2017 06:21

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Sinclair Richard F Hope Lambeth 1d 412


Deaths Jun 1978 (>99%)
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SINCLAIR RICHARD FRANCIS 27AU1919 FULHAM 12 798

Chris :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Feb 2017 09:07

Birth ties with baptism so he wasn't a WW2 casualty

First name(s) Richard Francis
Last name Sinclair
Birth year 1919
Birth date 27 Aug 1919
Baptism year 1919
Baptism date 12 Oct 1919
Father's first name(s) Harry
Mother's first name(s) Jessie Winifred
Parish Holy Trinity, Vauxhall Bridge Road
County Middlesex
Country England
Page 254
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Westminster Archives


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Feb 2017 09:04

Could this be him ????

Richard Francis Sinclair
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1919
Date of Registration: Jun 1978
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 0798


Edits (1971one on below)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/


Deaths Mar 1971 (>99%)
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SINCLAIR Richard Francis 28Ja1920 Nottingham 3c 891


Nicola Report 27 Feb 2017 00:29

There are 2 Richard Francis Sinclair's one born 27th Aug 1919, Lambeth and other Born Jan 1920, Billericay Essex.Waiting for death cert to comfirm which is mine.


(below also)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1365099

Nicola Report 6 Mar 2017 00:02

Signed up to FWR yesterday for info on a WW2 service record.
I had the name and service number already and was hoping for more info, no DOB, enlistment date or location. No way of knowing I have the right person, maybe I am not using it correctly??


PatinCyprus Report 6 Mar 2017 08:58

All forces records from 1920s onwards are not online and are still with MOD. Here's the link to help you obtain them.

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

It costs £30 and there is a wait of several months

I have marriage cert for my Richard Francis Sinclair from 1939 to Edith Joan Miles, this is 100% my RFS born 27th Aug 1919 in Lambeth, parents Harry Sinclair and Jessica Hope.
He was not in RAF, thats the Essex RFS born Jan 1920. My RFS died in 1978, I have the death cert.
The marriage cert of my RFS says he was a trooper in Life Guards and living at Knightsbridge barracks at time of his marriage in sept 1939 and his service number was 295205.
So please forget all the others, I thought was him.
The above is my one but can't find this service number anywhere even on FWR.
If anyone would like to take a look at the marriage cert, I would really like a 2nd opinion on the details, especially of RFS father Harry Sinclair, I can't make it out .

If you like to PM me, Nicola, and attach the cert, I'd be happy to take a look.

Thanks for sending the marriage cert, Nicola.

Harry's occupation is Clerk, Order Department, National Health Insurance (retired).
Richard's details are as you have said:
No 295205, Trooper, Life Guards, Knightsbridge Barracks, Westminster

Edith's father Edward was a Chimney sweep (retired).

Witnesses were J W Sinclair and E J Perry.

Edith signs as J Miles, and Richard as R Sinclair.

Hope that helps!

What was Edith's age?

Could this be Edith in 1939?: (her name appears to be crossed through and 'see page 19' has been added)

Household 10, 11, 12 Leinster Gardens Leinster Gardens , Paddington, London, England
Edith J Sinclair 02 Dec 1914 Female Independent Married

Edith was 25, and Richard was 20.
And her address was 12 Leinster Gardens.

The marriage was on15/09/1939

Edith in 1939 Leinster Gardens is her address on marriage cert. Why is it 10,11,12 Leinster Gardens? can't see other residents?
Can't find her birth either?

I think this is her birth and death (Correct date but 2 years out):

Birth:
MILES, EDITH VICTORIA JOAN (mother's maiden name: HOLLAMBY)
Birth year 1913
Birth quarter 1
Mother's last name Hollamby
District Tonbridge
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 1555


death:
First name(s) EDITH VICTORIA J
Last name SINCLAIR
Gender Female
Birth day 2 December 1912
Death quarter 2
Death year 1989
District Reading & Wokingham
Register number 589
County Berkshire
Volume 19 Page 257
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Possible marriage for parents:

Marriages Sep 1900
Gurr Alice Catherine Tunbridge 2a 1450
Hollamby Lilly Marjory L Tunbridge 2a 1450 <<<<<
Miles Edward Tunbridge 2a 1450 <<<<<<<<<<
Rye Alfred Tunbridge 2a 1450

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Barden Road Speldhurst Tunbridge Wells, Speldhurst, Kent, England

Edward Miles Head Married Male Brickmaker 33 1878 Hartfield Sussex
Louisa Miles Wife Married Female - 33 1878 Southborough Kent
Lily Miles Daughter Single Female School 10 1901 Seven Oaks Kent
Violet Miles Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Speldhurst Kent

Edith's mother died in 1933:
First name(s) LILY M L
Last name MILES
Gender Female
Birth year 1878
Age 55
Death quarter 1
Death year 1933
District Maidstone
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 1562
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Edith's father didn't waste any time and remarried later the same year:

Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Miles Edward Shelliady Tonbridge 2a 2312
Shelliady Margaret Miles Tonbridge 2a 2312
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Edith's father in 1939:

Miles Household (2 People) Barden Road , Tonbridge R.D., Kent, England
Edward Miles 22 Sep 1879 Male Sweep Married
Margaret Miles 05 Jan 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married