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John Ellis born C1817 Liverpool married to Sarah (possibly Jones) born C1817 Chester. They had a son Samuel Ellis born 1853 Kent, Chorlton or Woolwich. Looking for anyone who can share information especially regarding parents of John Ellis as I have hit a brick wall - bet you all know that feeling!!!
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Have you looked on Family search IGI. This shows a John Ellis baptised Liverpool St Nicholas on 27 October 1816, parents William Ellis and Anne. It also shows marriage for John Ellis and Sarah Jones again at St Nicholas on 29 September 1839. 1861 census shows Samuel as being born at Woolwich. Parish records seem to be the next step for you regarding John.
Good luck.
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Go to Lancashire bmd. The 1839 marriage certificate could be ordered from there. However they show the marriage as being at Our Lady & St Nicholas and St Anne. If you get a copy of that, it should show the names of their fathers.
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Are you sure she was born in chester? This is a sarah jones christened at the same church that she was married in
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Sarah Jones Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 MAY 1815 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: James Jones Family
Mother: Mrs. Mary Jones
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Forget that, theres a lot of Sarah Jones' listed in liverpool. never mind
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1851 census
1851 England Census
about John Ellis
Name: John Ellis
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Woolwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Greenwich
Town: Woolwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John Ellis 34
John Ellis 3 Mo
Kate Ellis 4
Mary Ellis 6
Priscilla Ellis 2
Sarah Ellis 34
Sarah A Ellis 8
1861 census
1861 England Census
about Sarah Ellis
Name: Sarah Ellis
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
John Ellis 44
John Ellis 10
Kate Ellis 14
Pricilla Ellis 17
Samuel Ellis 8
Sarah Ellis 44
Sarah A Ellis 18
William Ellis 4
John Jones 72
1871 census
1871 England Census
about Sarah Ellis
Name: Sarah Ellis
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Ellis 10
John Ellis 54
Samuel Ellis 18
Sarah Ellis 54
William Ellis 14
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Looks like Samuel went on to marry Flora
1881 England Census
about Samuel Ellis
Name: Samuel Ellis
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora
Gender: Male
Where born: Chorlton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 53 Raglan Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Engine Fitter
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Beatrice Ellis
Ernest Ellis 3
Flora Ellis 30
Herbert Ellis 5
Kate Ellis 7
Samuel Ellis 28
1891 England Census
about Samuel Ellis
Name: Samuel Ellis
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora E
Gender: Male
Where born: Charlton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Smethwick
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Ellis 1
Beatrice Ellis 10
Ernest Ellis 13
Flora E Ellis 40
Frank Ellis 8
Harry Ellis 4
Herbert Ellis 15
John Ellis 6
Kate Ellis 16
Samuel Ellis 38
1901 England Census
about Samuel Ellis
Name: Samuel Ellis
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora
Gender: Male
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Smethwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Ellis 11
Beatrice Ellis 20
Clara Ellis 6
Flora Ellis 51
Frank Ellis 18
Harry Ellis 14
Herbert Ellis 25
John Ellis 16
Kate Ellis 27
Samuel Ellis 48
William Ellis 8
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Thank you Jeanette and Jenna for your excellent help!!! Have just logged on and am so surprised that you both responded so quickly!!!
I knew that John married Sarah before 1841 from census reports but could not find a marriage date so you have definitely come up trumps for me!! I will definitely order a marriage certificate!!
Jenna you are also correct about Samuel marrying Flora. Samuel and Flora were my husband's great great grandparents. My husband's uncle is convinced that the Ellis family originated from Ireland hence the need to trace much further back than John !!! At least the marriage certioficate will start me off again so a very BIG thank you!!!
Maureen
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