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so it looks like having to go the records office then to find more on them

what about their marriage that you found in 1844 that would be about right as their first child was born in 1846

sarah

Hi ozi


I assumed you would have used Extracted!


I was trying to get Sarah to do some of the checking that she can do for free.


sylvia

Sarah & Sylvia.

They're not on the IGI (Mormon site) as such. The nearest I got were the ones above.

If they have a batch no & dates they are extracted from the parish records. I just delete all the source message guff.

Ozi.

the only place to find his birth is from the parish registers.

The main place to find parish records on the internet is on the Mormon site ....www.familysearch.org. Otherwise, you have to find out where the parish registers are kept and go to that place.

You can search on the Mormon site yourself, as it is free.


Just go to the site, click on Advanced Search, scroll down to International Genealogical Index, and follow instructions.


Just be sure that any record you take is an EXTRACTED record . that means the information has been taken from the actual doceuments

A SUBMITTED record means just that .. it has been submitted by a member of the church, and such records are not to be trusted.



sylvia

looking for birth of

william thompson b abt 1826 ibstock leicestershire

also his marriage to a mary in 1851 ashby se la zouch area

thanks

sarah

Possibilities:

IGI Individual Record
WILLIAM THOMPSON
Christening: 01 DEC 1822 Ticknall, Derby, Parents:
Father: THOMAS THOMPSON
Mother: ELIZABETH
Source Information:
Batch No.: C059001
Dates: 1806 - 1812, 1813 - 1878


IGI Individual Record
MARY MASON OR ACRES
Christening: 20 MAY 1823 Ticknall, Derby, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS ACRES
Mother: MARY MASON
Source Information:
Batch No.: C059001
Dates: 1806 - 1812, - 1878


I'm not happy with these though, as I still think William was born at Ibstock.

1841 England Census
Name: William Thompson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Ticknall
Hundred: Repton and Gresley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Ticknall

Occupation:

Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Thompson 49 - widow
William Thompson 19


1841 England Census
Name: Mary Mason
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Ticknall
Hundred: Repton and Gresley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Ticknall

Occupation: female servant

Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Grattidge 17 - apprentice
Mary Mason 18
Elizabeth Bannister 35

aha!!


1891 Census

although Arthur has become William!!



Name: William Thompson
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ibstock, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Hartshorne
Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville
Town: Woodville
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Thompson 42 b.ca 1849, Blackfordby
George Thompson 14 b.ca 1877, Boundary, Leicestershire, Grandson
Mary Thompson 65 b.ca 1826, Newhall, Derbyshire
William Thompson 65
William Thompson 16 b.ca 1875, Boundary, Leicestershire, Grandson



sylvia

thanks all

sarah

First wife may have died & William remarried. I think Emma & Eliza were too well off being potters.

This is possibly his first marriage, Samuel's mother.

Marriages Sep 1844
ADCOCK Mark Ashby de la Zh 15 3
BAXTER Ann Ashby de la Zouch 15 3
BEDFORD Jane Ashby de la Z 15 3
BOWLER Frederick Ashby de la Zh 15 3
...>>>MASON Mary Ann Ashby De La Zh 15 3
PEEL William Ashby de la Z 15 3
...>>>THOMPSON William Ashby de la Z 15 3
TOONE Ann Ashby de la Z 15 3


However I think she's the same woman as she's always born in the same place. I just think the younger boys are her menopause babies.

1851 England Census
Name: William Thompson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ibstock, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Blackfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Burton Road

Occupation: potter dish maker

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Measham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 27
Mary Thompson 25 - Newhall, Derbyshire
Ann Thompson 4
Emma Thompson 2
Eliza Thompson 2 weeks

I just think Mary's a little old ............ she'd have been around 51 when George was born


Not unknown of coruse.


But then there is a huge gap between the two littles and the others!!


I think they could turn out to be the children of either Eliza or Emma.


sylvia

No worries, Sylvia, write it off as good practice. As for Arthur & George, that's possible but Samuel is.


1861 England Census
Name: William Thompson
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ibstock, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Smisby
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: potter


Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 35
Mary Thompson 35
Emma Thompson 11
Eliza Thompson 9
Willowby Thompson 7
Sarah Thompson 4
Esther Thompson 1

I dare to suggest Arthur and george on the 1881 may not be the sons of William and Mary.


sylvia

hi ozi!!


snap

1891 Census

Samuel says he's born in Boundary, Derbyshire


Name: Samuel J Thompson
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Boundary, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Blackfordby
Ecclesiastical parish: Blackfordby
Town: Blackfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England


- - - -

so is this him in 1881?

Name: Samuel Thompson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Boundary, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Blackfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Burton Rd

Occupation: Potter

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur W. Thompson 6 b.ca 1875, Boundary, Son, Scholar
Eliza Thompson 31 b.ca 1850, Woodville, Leicestershire, Daughter, Pot Factor
Emma Thompson 32 b.ca 1849, Blackfordby, Leicestershire, Daughter, Pot Factor
George Thompson 4 b.ca 1877, Boundary, Derbyshire, Son, Scholar
Mary Thompson 55 b.ca 1826, Newbold, Derbyshire
Samuel Thompson 19
William Thompson 55 b.ca 1826, Ibstock, Leicestershire, Potter
Willoughby Thompson 26 b.ca 1855, Lutterworth, Leicestershire, Son, Potter


sylvia

1871 England Census
Name: Samuel Thompson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodville, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Hartshorne
Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville
Town: Hartshorne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 46 - potter
Mary Thompson 45
Emma Thompson 23 - potter
Eliza Thompson 20 - potter
Willoughby Thompson 14 - potter
Sarah Thompson 13 - potter
Ether Thompson 11
Samuel Thompson 9
Hannah Thompson 6

Same road as Pickerings in 1891.

1881 England Census
Name: Samuel Thompson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Boundary, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Blackfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Burton Rd

Occupation: Potter

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 55 - potter; Ibstock, Leicestershire
Mary Thompson 55 - Newbold, Derbyshire
Emma Thompson 32 - pot factory
Eliza Thompson 31 - pot factory
Willoughby Thompson 26 - potter
Samuel Thompson 19
Arthur W. Thompson 6
George Thompson 4

well why didn't you say you had all the information you needed on the pickerings??

It would have saved Ozi's time!


sylvia

thanks but have the pickerings want more on samuel thompson b abt 1861 hartshorn ??

sarah