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DAVIES AND GRIFFITHS FAMILY FROM CWMGRACH

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Wendy

Wendy Report 13 Sep 2009 22:36

I am stuck! Help please!

My Grandmother was Sarah Griffiths married to David John Davies in 1911. In the 1920 or 1930 they lived in Miners Row and Edward Street Cwmgwrach and I am trying to track down their parents of both Sarah and David.

Sarah Griffiths was one of 7 children and her father was David/ Dafydd Griffiths who was an overman at the colliery . He died 1929 Feb aged 60/61.

Her mother was Susannah ? died 1931 aged about 63and they were quite well off owning a fish/chip shop and had the first car in the village! Apparently they lived in Glannant House in Cwmgwrach.

David John Davies my grandfather and also a miner. was born Mountain Ash and died 22/8/1953 aged 71.
His parents were David and Marged ?- nothing else known!

Does anybody have the IGI or anything similar which might help give some detail please?
I have tried the 1891 Census and many births and gave up!
Any help much appreciated. Thanks! Wendy

Thanks Christine, Ginny! Can't add this thanks after your posts- it just won't work! Thank you - that's a great start! I met one of my Welsh cousins last week for the first time and am fired with enthusiasm for this lost family of mine!

Fantastic help! Very greatful!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Sep 2009 23:41

Hi Wendy - best delete everything down to the word "stuck" as it is meaningless

Ann

Gee

Gee Report 15 Sep 2009 07:05

Wendy

This doesnt make any sense to us who know nothing about your family.

Can you re read it and maybe then re word it so we can help you?

Ginny
x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 08:23

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llanwonno/MountainAsh/#Archives

this will be useful

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 08:28

or
Address: 12, Narigation Street, Llanwonno, Mountain Ash
JONES, Shennet Head Widow F 71 1830
Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Richard Son Single M 34 1867 Collier
Glamorgan VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Daughter Widow F 43 1858
Glamorgan VIEW
DAVIES, David J Grand Son Single M 18 1883 Haulier Underground
Glamorgan VIEW
DAVIES, Catherine A Grand Daughter Single F 16 1885
Glamorgan VIEW
DAVIES, Edward Grand Son Single M 13 1888 Collier
Glamorgan VIEW
WATKINS, Richard Lodger Single M 33 1868 Collier
Glamorgan

Look at the address and names of young Davids siblings.
They match to 1891 below. This is your family.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 08:47

Do you have any idea how many David Davies families there are in Mountain Ash?

BINGO

1891
Address: 10, Navigation Street, Llanwonno, Mountain Ash
DAVIES, David Head Married M 31 1860 Underground Fireman
Ystradgunlais
Breconshire VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 33 1858
Dowlais
Glamorganshire VIEW
DAVIES, David John Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Mountain Ash
Glamorganshire VIEW
DAVIES, Catherine Ann Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
Mountain Ash
Glamorganshire VIEW
DAVIES, Edward Son Single M 3 1888
Mountain Ash
Glamorganshire VIEW
WILLIAMS, Mary Lodger Single F 53 1838 Charwoman
Aberdare
Glamorganshire



well that is a start.
Going out for a while but will look in later.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 10:03

next door

1881
Address: 12, Navigation St, Llanwonno
DAVIES, David Head Married M 22 1859 Coal Miner
Ystradgynlais
Brecknockshire
Wales VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 22 1859
Dowlais
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
DAVIES, Jennett Daughter Single F 0 1881
M Ash
Glamorganshire
Wales

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 10:13

1881
Address: 12, Navigation St, Llanwonno
JONES, John Head Married M 53 1828 Coal Miner
Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Jennet Wife Married F 48 1833
Dowlais
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
JONES, Richard Son Single M 15 1866 Coal Miner
Dowlais
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
JONES, Mary J Daughter Single F 5 1876
M Ash
Glamorganshire
Wales




I deleted the records that are not yours to avoid confusion but deleted this by mistake

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 17:11

To reply click on the purple reply button at the top of this page, type your message then hit submit under the message box.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 17:21

1861 Address: Tanygraig Ynusawen, Abercrave, Ystradgunlais
DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 27 1834 Quarryman...
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 23 1838
Llangadock
Carmarthenshire VIEW
DAVIES, David Son M 3 1858
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire VIEW
DAVIES, Rees Son M 1 1860
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire

OR

1861
Address: Penywaun, Ystradgynlais
DAVIES, David Head Married M 25 1836 Iron Miner
Cardiganshire
N K VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Wife Married F 26 1835
Cardiganshire
N K VIEW
DAVIES, David Son M 3 1858
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire VIEW
DAVIES, Elinor Daughter F 1 1860
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire VIEW
DAVIES, Margaret Servant F 11 1850 Servant
Ystradgynlais
Breconshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 17:26

1861
Address: 28, Ivor New Town, Merthyr Tydfil
JONES, John Head Married M 33 1828 Collier
...
Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Jennet Wife Married F 28 1833
Dowlais
Glamorganshire VIEW
JONES, Margaret Daughter F 3 1858
Dowlais
Glamorganshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 17:37

1871
Address: Navigation St, Llanwonno
JONES, John Head M 44 1827 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Janet Wife F 36 1835 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Margaret Daughter F 14 1857 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Richard Son M 6 1865 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, John Head M 44 1827 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Janet Wife F 36 1835 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Margaret Daughter F 14 1857 Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, Richard Son M 6 1865 Glamorgan VIEW
BOWEN, Margaret Visitor F 35 1836 Glamorgan VIEW
BOWEN, Margaret Visitor F 35 1836 Glamorgan

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 18:09

I need more details on David and Susannah. Where were they born? Other childrens names etc

Wendy

Wendy Report 15 Sep 2009 20:57

Hullo again!
Very little known really:

Sarah and David Davies lived in 3 Miner's Row, Cwmgwrach , rented from her mpther Susannah Griffiths who was something of a business woman ! They were married in 1911. Later they moved to Edward Street nearby. They had 8 children.

Susannah Griffiths and her husband had a shop in the front of their house and lived in Glannant House Cwmgwrach near the police station. He was the overman in the collirey and held the chair in Castaria Chapel.

They had 7 children altogether:
:
Edwin, Harry ,Glyn, Sarah, Annie, Lena and Sue

David Griffiths died in Feb 1929 aged about 60

Susannah died November 1931 aged about 63

Many years ago my mother told me that David Griffiths' father was called Griff Griffiths! and was a farmer from Cardiganshire.
and that she thought Susannah's maiden name was Evans!!

I have tried phoning my cousin today but she must be at work!!

Thank you ever so much!

KInd regards and thank you all for your help!
Wendy

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 21:46

1901
Address: Star Cottage, Resolven
GRIFITHS, David Head Married M 33 1868
Resolven
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFITHS, Susanah Wife Married F 29 1872
Resolven
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFITHS, Sarah Daughter F 10 1891
Resolven
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFITHS, Hannah Maria Daughter F 7 1894
Resolven
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFITHS, Edwin Son M 3 1898
Resolven
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFITHS, Annie Daughter F 0 (9 MOS) 1901
Resolven
Glamorganshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 21:49

1891 census - household transcription
Person: GRIFFITHS, Susanna
Address: 3, Glynrossor, Blaengwrach


GRIFFITHS, Dd Head Married M 23 1868 Coal Miner
Glamorganshire
Derlwm Bach VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Susanna Wife Married F 19 1872
Blaengwrach
Glamorganshire VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Sarah Daughter Single M 0 (1M) 1891
Blaengwrach
Glamorganshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 21:54

possible but Griff not there

Person: GRIFFITHS, David
Address: Melincourt, Resolven


GRIFFITHS, Mary Head Married F 55 1826 Coal Miners Wife
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Sophia Daughter Single F 22 1859 General Servant Domestic
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Caroline J Daughter Single F 18 1863 Dressmaker
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
GRIFFITHS, David Son Single M 17 1864 Coal Miner
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
GRIFFITHS, John Son Single M 15 1866 Coal Miner
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Mary J Grand Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
RICHARDS, Thomas Father In Law Widower M 83 1798 Coal Miner
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales VIEW
RICHARDS, Philip Brother In Law Single M 57 1824 Laborer On Farm
Resolven
Glamorganshire
Wales

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 21:59

I have Griffith too
Different wife though so may have married twice

1871 census - household transcription
Person: GRIFFITH, David
Address: Dock Houses, Cadoxton Juxta Neath


GRIFFITH, Griffith Head M 31 1840 Glamorgan VIEW
GRIFFITH, Sarah Wife F 25 1846 Glamorgan VIEW
GRIFFITH, David Son M 4 1867 Glamorgan VIEW
GRIFFITH, Phillip Son M 2 1869 Glamorgan

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Sep 2009 22:14

not convinced last 2 are same family

Wendy

Wendy Report 16 Sep 2009 12:18

Hi Chrstine!

Will just print these latest findings off. Out to the dentist - back soon!

Thanks again!