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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 17 Feb 2011 19:18

Thanks for looking, FBG

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Feb 2011 18:36

I have searched for her on 1901 and 1911 plus outgoing passengers and have been unable to locate her at all,sorry.

But if she married in India in 1912 I would imagine that she would have been out there some time before her marriage so would may not be on 1911 English census..

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 17 Feb 2011 12:39

Please could someone look on the 1911 census to see if Emma Harriet/Harriet Emma Cooke is in England at this time.
Thank you

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 25 Jan 2011 16:01

I have done a bit more searching for Harriet Emma Cooke
in 1870 she is born at Shorncliffe Barracks Kent and called Harriet Emma.
1871 Some the census page is missing and she is just Emma. Living at Kensington Barracks, London.
1881. Recorded as Emma Harriet. Living in Worcestershire.
1891 She is living in London, working as a Lady's maid . Census is hard to decipher. She is now Emme.
I can't find her for 1901.
In June 1933 she is left some money by her brother. The will says Harriet Emma Paice (wife of Alfred Hubert Paice),
The record of her death that you found is definitely her. Except her name is Paice not Price, The date and location match.
I though that her marriage was correct except for the fact that her father's initials do not match and her birth year is wrong.
I found an incoming passenger record for a Miss E Cooke (b1871) from Calcutta arriving 12.1.1900, but again that may not be her.
I have found Alfred Paice,s WW1 record but it doesn't give much information apart from the fact that he served in India.
Don't know if you can give me any further help?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 21:06

Aha..Yes MC,you are correct..Now to get him going to India if poss..And maybe the Cooke family too?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2010 20:54

Think in 1901 Alfred is with relatives, Henry A is possibly brother with mum in Fans find:

PAICE, Hubert Head Married M 38 1863 Corn Flour & Seed Merchant Reading Berkshire
PAICE, Matilda Wife Married F 36 1865 Spaldwick Hampshire
PAICE, Gladys E Daughter Single F 6 1895 Walthamstow Essex
PAICE, Victor H W Son Single M 4 1897 Walthamstow Essex
PAICE, William S Son Single M 3 1898 Walthamstow Essex
PAICE, Ronald L Son Single M 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Walthamstow Essex
VENABLES, Margaret M Servant Single F 14 1887 General Servant Domestic Walthamstow Essex
>>PAICE, Alfred H Nephew Single M 12 1889 Caversham Berkshire

RG number: RG13 Piece: 1627 Folio: 72 Page: 30

Registration District: West Ham Sub District: Walthamstow Enumeration District: 30 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary

Civil Parish: Walthamstow Municipal Borough:
Address: 306, Hoe Street, Walthamstow County: Essex

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 20:46

1901 and that Alfred is now Henry?


PAICE, Christiana Head Widow F 40 1861 Books
Bristol
Gloucestershire
PAICE, Henry A Son Single M 8 1893
Reading

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Waterloo Road Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Lambeth St Thomas

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
30, Oakley Street, Lambeth County:
London


I am being called.Gotta go,and I dont know what to think at the mo,but she may well have lied on marriage,so many did and do..!

But I cant find Alfred Paice going to India on passenger lists on FMP

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2010 20:33

If the records found are right then she could have been nearly 20 years older than Alfred at marriage. Could they have fibbed about ages to minimise the difference?

** hard to find Cooke family after 1881 - names aren't unusual and they did seem to move around a bit so hard to tell who's who.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2010 20:31

Just throwing these in the pot, possibly for elimination:

Births Mar 1889
Paice Alfred Hubert Henley 3a 763
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PAICE, Alfred Head Married M 31 1860 Clothiers Manager Reading Berkshire
PAICE, Christiana M Wife Married F 32 1859 Bristol Somersetshire
PAICE, Alfred H Son M 2 1889 Caversham Oxfordshire
TURNER, Emily E Servant Single F 14 1877 General Servant Tilehurst Berkshire

RG number: RG12 Piece: 996 Folio: 114 Page: 41

Registration District: Reading Sub District: St Giles
Enumeration District: 18 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Giles

Civil Parish: Reading Municipal Borough: Reading
Address: 64, Erleigh Road, Reading County: Berkshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 20:31

Certainly do MC,I just dont feel this as right.

As I said,it just does not add up..

I would like to kow if that IS her death I have added..I dont see another marriage for her although Suzanne says she divorced.Divorce back then was expensive and hard to come by,I know it did happen,but not often.
I cant see any of the rest of the family on later census,can you MC?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2010 20:20

Fans - great minds obviously think alike!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 20:13

1881

COOKE, James Head Married M 47 1834 Drill Instructor Ym C?
Ledbury
Herefordshire
COOKE, Harriet Florence Wife Married F 43 1838
St Neots
Huntingdonshire
COOKE, Florence Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1864 Warehouse Woman (Needle)
Dublin
Ireland
COOKE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1866 Dressmaker
Dublin
Ireland
COOKE, James John Son Single M 13 1868 Warehouse Boy (F Lab)
Dundalk
Ireland
COOKE, Emma Harriet Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
Shorncliffe
Kent
COOK, Harry Herbert Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Colchester
Essex
COOK, Clara Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Webheath
Worcestershire
COOK, Edith Mary Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Webheath
Worcestershire
COOK, Alice Annie Daughter Single F 3 1878
Webheath
Worcestershire
WALTON, Ann Mother In Law Widow F 70 1811 Formerly Laundress
St Neots
Huntingdonshire

Registration District:
Bromsgrove Sub District:
Tardebigg Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Webheath Municipal Borough:
Address:
Banks Green, Webheath County:
Worcestershire


Is this her death,its the only one I can see that may be her?

Name: Harriet E Price
Death Registration Month/Year: 1944
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Solihull
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 877
If this is her death then again she is born c1870.

Things just dont add up.
On her marriage she gives father as T.T Cooke NOT James Cooke and says she is born 1878.

Why does it say born 1878 on the marriage?

Are you certain that is her marriage or that it is her on 1881 census?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2010 20:04

I think this is the 1881 Suzanne is referring to:

COOKE, James Head Married M 47 1834 Drill Instructor Ym C? Ledbury Herefordshire
COOKE, Harriet Florence Wife Married F 43 1838 St Neots Huntingdonshire
COOKE, Florence Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1864 Warehouse Woman (Needle) Dublin Ireland
COOKE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1866 Dressmaker Dublin Ireland
COOKE, James John Son Single M 13 1868 Warehouse Boy (F Lab) Dundalk Ireland
>>COOKE, Emma Harriet Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Shorncliffe Kent
COOK, Harry Herbert Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Colchester Essex
COOK, Clara Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Webheath Worcestershire
COOK, Edith Mary Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Webheath Worcestershire
COOK, Alice Annie Daughter Single F 3 1878 Webheath Worcestershire
WALTON, Ann Mother In Law Widow F 70 1811 Formerly Laundress St Neots Huntingdonshire

RG number: RG11 Piece: 2943 Folio: 111 Page: 9

Registration District: Bromsgrove Sub District: Tardebigg

Civil Parish: Webheath
Address: Banks Green, Webheath County: Worcestershire

** I note Suzanne confirmed the marriage details correct than FBG found. On that marriage the bride's father was T.T. Cooke, whereas on this census it is James Cooke. Miss Cooke's names are reversed between census and marriage record.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 23 Dec 2010 18:11

In 1881 I've got her living in Tardebigg,Worcestershire with her family.
1912 (as per your info) in Calcutta
She died in Solihull West Midlands in 1944 after being knocked down by a car

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 18:00

Please can you give the 1881 census for her that you have and the 1911.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 23 Dec 2010 17:47

Sorry Fanny, for not getting back to you. Yes, the info you gave me about the marriage is correct.
Thank you

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Dec 2010 17:39

So no response whatsoever to the marriage that I posted for them in India?
Is it not the correct one?

If she was in India there would be no census available for her.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 23 Dec 2010 17:34

Harriett Emma Cooke. I have found census details for her except for 1891 and 1901. I know she was a lady's maid for the family of Lord Curzon, the Viceroy of India. Can anyone help with those two missing dates?
Thank you

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Dec 2010 20:13

To be found here.
beta.familysearch.org

groom's name: Alfred Hubert Paice
groom's birth date: 1885
groom's age: 27
bride's name: Harriet Emma Cooke
bride's birth date: 1878
bride's age: 34
marriage date: 11 Mar 1912
marriage place: Calcutta, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: Alfred Paice
bride's father's name: T. T. Cooke
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single

No image available,grooms age is 20 yrs different that you give ,but certainly the pairs marriage.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Dec 2010 17:38

Suzanne - could she be Harriett Emma (is that your tree on Ancestry that has her name that way?)