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Kucinta
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24 Dec 2010 08:43 |
Had a look at some of the trees that have Augustus as son of Angel Aarons..
Now some have him as son of Angel and Sarah, but some have him as son of Angel and ABIGAIL.
The latter concern me more, as we only have the one census instance of Augustus with HENRY and Abigail, so maybe this could be an Angel using a second forename or picking an anglicised one.
Found this potential marriage:
Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Aarons Angel St Luke 1b 778 BARNETT Abraham St Luke 1b 778 COHEN Eve St. Luke 1b 778 >>>>MENDOZA Abigail St Luke 1b 778
Some of the trees have Aaron dying in 1862. This obviously isn't true of the Angel married to Sarah, who is still alive in census 1881, and the only record of an Aarons I can find dying in the London area in 1862 is a Samuel Aarons.
However I did find a lady called Abigail Smith in census 1881 who had a much younger husband, but also a son and grandson called Aarons. It might just be co-incidence, but I think the only way Karen can be certain of Augustus's parentage is to buy that birth cert.
This Abigail Smith is also a dress maker, like Abigail Aarons in 1861. (However dressmaking is not an uncommon occupation for women).
Births Dec 1857 Aarons Augustus - London City 1c 87
Census 1881:
Name: Alfred Aarons Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 5 Knottisford St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Members: Name Age George Smith 34 c1847 St Lukes, Middlesex, England. Dock Labourer. Abigail Smith 51 c1830 Hounsditch, Middlesex, England. Dressmaker Louis Aarons 19 c1862 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Alfred Aarons 4 c1877 Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England.
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Dec 2010 08:07 |
Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aarons Augustus Jonas Islington 1b 642 Jonas Pauline Aarons Islington 1b 642 Marten Frederick J Twitchings Islington 1b 642 Twitchings Elsie B Marten Islington 1b 642
Deaths Mar 1933 (>99% -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aarons Augustus 75 Islington 1b 245
From Probate Index...
Name: Augustus Aarons Probate Date: 17 Feb 1933 Death Date: 15 Jan 1933 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: London
of 55, Parkhurst Road, Holloway. Probate to Pauline Rosetta Aarons widow. Effects £394 19s 5d
Chris :)
Deaths Mar 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aarons Elizabeth 67 Islington 1b 298
(Death of first wife)
Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aarons Augustus Holborn 1b 1111 Fusco Maria Holborn 1b 1111 Fusco Raphael Holborn 1b 1111 Goldsmith Elizabeth Holborn 1b 1111
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Kucinta
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24 Dec 2010 00:03 |
Augustus did call one of his children Angel.
Census 1891:
Name: Augustus Aarons Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Aarons Gender: Male Where born: Spitalfields, London, England Civil Parish: Shadwell Ecclesiastical parish: Shadwell Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Shadwell ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household Members: Name Age Augustus Aarons 33 Elizabeth Aarons 35 Angel Aarons 14 Rachael Aarons 12 Leah Aarons 11 Caroline Lucas 71
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23 Dec 2010 23:28 |
Angel and Sarah appear to be childless in census 1871 as well. Certainly no sign of Augustus:
Name: Angel Aarons Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Aarons Gender: Male Where born: Houndsditch, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Old Artillery Ground Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 200
Household Members: Name Age Angel Aarons 47 c1824 Houndsditch, Middlesex, England. General Dealer. Sarah Aarons 36 c1835 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England.
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Kucinta
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23 Dec 2010 23:21 |
5 Sandys Row appears to be a house of multiple occupancy in 1881, there are other households there apart from Angel's household and Augustus's household.
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Kucinta
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23 Dec 2010 23:16 |
Looks like you'll have to buy the birth cert to be 100% sure, in view of Margaret's discovery on the 1881 census, but I suspect Angel is possibly an uncle or other relative. Augustus is described as son to Henry in 1861, whereas no relationship is stated to Angel.
Elizabeth is born Germany on census 1901 & 1911.
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Karen
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23 Dec 2010 23:16 |
Hi Kucinta, thank you. The family tree I have been looking into, which shows Angel Aarons as Augustus Aarons' father, also shows another Angel Aarons born c 1825 in Spittalfields married to a Sarah Mendoza. I think this is the Angel you have found. So you are right that he can't be Augustus' father, but he may still possibly be related. Thank you though.
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23 Dec 2010 23:12 |
On the 1881 census, at the same address, 5 Sandy's Row, Old Artillery Ground, London, are the following:
Angel Aarons, head, 60, general dealer Sarah, wife, 49
Augustus Aarons, head, 23, tailor Elizabeth, wife, 29 Rachael, dau, 3 Leah, dau, 6 months?
All born London.
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Kucinta
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23 Dec 2010 23:08 |
Census 1911:
Three children born of the marriage, all alive at time of census 1911.
AARONS, Augustus Head Mar M 54 1857 Tailor City of London . AARONS, Elizabeth Wife Mar 35 years F 55 1856 Germany Posen Resident . PERROTT, Jane Servant Widow F 44 1867 Domestic Servant General London Mile End . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: St George in the East Sub District: St George and St John Enumeration District: 4 Parish: St George in the East Address: 30 Watney ST
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Karen
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23 Dec 2010 23:06 |
Brilliant, thank you. :)
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Kucinta
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23 Dec 2010 23:03 |
Just to show Augustus is NOT with Angel and Sarah Aarons in 1861 when he would be 3.
Name: Angel Arons Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Arons Gender: Male Where born: London, England Civil Parish: Spitalfields Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Members: Name Age
Angel Arons 36 c1825 London, England. General dealer Sarah Arons 27 c1834 London, England. Looks pretty much like Henry and Abbey/Abigail are Augustus's parents.
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Mike *
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23 Dec 2010 22:53 |
Freebmd is FREE.
Here's the link http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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Karen
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23 Dec 2010 22:52 |
Thanks Mike. I can't access the bmd index at the mo (not without paying extra $ - which ain't going to happen at christmas time I'm afraid!), so I haven't been able to check it out fully yet. Thanks you all.
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23 Dec 2010 22:49 |
!
I posted Augustus's birth certificate record at the top of the thread.
The marriage is for parents Henry and Abigail.
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Karen
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23 Dec 2010 22:45 |
Chris, I'm interested in the census info you gave me in which Augusts' parents were Henry & Abigail. Do you know if there is any further info on this (i.e. later census records/birth cert for Augustus)?? Much appreciated, Karen.
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Karen
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23 Dec 2010 22:26 |
Hi Mike, the cencus records are the ones I'm looking for, the marriage one appears to be someone different. Thank you.
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23 Dec 2010 22:16 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1846 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>Aron Henry Cheltenham 11 278 Burnett Ann Cheltenham 11 278 Harris Samuel Cheltenham 11 278 Houghton Elizabeth Cheltenham 11 278 >>>>>>>>>>>>Hunt Abbey Cheltenham 11 278 Lidheygate William Cheltenham 11 278 Lidheyate William Cheltenham 11 278 Luker Charles Cheltenham 11 278 Stoneham Ann Cheltenham 11 278
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23 Dec 2010 22:13 |
For reference
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Augustus AARONS Head M Male 23 London, Middlesex, England Tailor Unemployed Elizabeth AARONS Wife M Female 29 London, Middlesex, England Tailor Rachael AARONS Daur U Female 3 Middlesex, England Leah AARONS Daur U Female 6 m Middlesex, England William BARTON Other U Male 23 Middlesex, England General Laborer Emma STEADMAN Other U Female 29 Brighton, Sussex, England Charwoman
Dwelling 5 Sandys Row Census Place London, Middlesex, England ----------------------------------------------------
Births Jun 1878 AARONS Rachel - Whitechapel 1c 313
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Chris Ho :)
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23 Dec 2010 22:12 |
1861 Census AARON, Henry Head Married M 36 1825 Clothes Salesman St Martins in the Fields VIEW AARON, Abigail Wife Married F 30 1831 Dressmaker Bow Middlesex VIEW AARON, Augustus Son M 3 1858 St Catherine Cree VIEW RG number: RG09 Piece: 265 Folio: 139 Page: 19 Registration District: Whitechapel Sub District: 2 Spitalfields Enumeration District: 7 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Civil Parish: Spitalfields Municipal Borough: Address: 7, North Street, Spitalfields County: London, Middlesex Chris :)
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23 Dec 2010 22:11 |
This cert would answer your question
Births Dec 1857 Aarons Augustus - London City 1c 87
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