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Many thanks, we know he was in West Ham until at least 1915 when his daughter was born. He then disappeared. There were a couple of Archibald Baxters going to USA, and we wondered if it could be our Archibald, as we can find no death for him in England. He may have been in WW1, and I am going to contact the same Regiment as my Grandad was in, they gave me a lot of details, and I hope they can say whether Archibald was in the same Regiment.
Ginny, I would be grateful for any details, and will send you my direct address.
Liz

Details on this record include:

Jenny Baxter (Swedish) wife
Archibald Baxter son b 16th Aug 1914 Scotland
James Baxter son b 19th Sept 1917 New York
Father Archibald

I understand that the 1891/1901 have the father listed as John and here it states Archibald, Im not sure of the reason for that myself?


U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Archibald Baxter
Name: Archibald Baxter
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1887
Birth Place: Forfarshire, Scotland
Age: 35
Residence: New York
Passport Issue Date: 22 Sep 1922
Father Name: Archibald Baxter
Father's Birth Location: Scotland
Father's Residence: Edinburgh, Scotland
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes


Now the excellent news is that there are photographs of all the family on this document, so if you know what they looked like it will either confirm its them or not!

Send me your email address and I can send over the document with the photos

Hi Liz

I can see the birth is registered in June 1888 but we need his full DOB, does your cousin have this?

Edit How do you know he went to the USA?

This record shows Archi senior, Jenny and James

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Archibald Baxter
Name: Archibald Baxter
Arrival Date: 18 Dec 1922
Birth Year: abt 1914
Age: 8
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Baltic

This record shows the above withour James

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Archibald Baxter
Name: Archibald Baxter
Arrival Date: 16 Oct 1914
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: edinburgh
Age: 2 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Mauretania

The ages match up on both records and so do the names so a guess would be that they are the same people. Maybe Archi and Jenny married in Scotland and thats why you cant find a marriage for them in Eng/Wales

There are also no matching births for Archi jr and James in Essex so Id guess they were born in Scotland too

You need to check Scotlands People for a marriage and the birth of their children

Thanks, I have not got the cert. but one of my cousins may have. Will give her a ring, the birth was registered June l888.
Liz

Liz

Have you got Archibalds full DOB? If not it might be a good idea to get the birth certificate as it will help with tracing other records

Yes, I am sure the l9ll is correct, as my Grandad is on there. Archibald's age is incorrect , but everything else fits.
Thanks, Liz

Are you sure that is the correct family? Here they are in 1901

Archibald' birth year changes dramatically from 1901 to 1911

1901 England Census
about Archibald Baxter
Name: Archibald Baxter
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Baxter
Mother's Name: Mary Baxter
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: The Ascension
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Piece: 1580
Folio: 24
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
John Baxter 49
Mary Baxter 43
Janet Baxter 20
John Baxter 19
Mary Baxter 17
Archibald Baxter 13
Henry Baxter 10
Adam Baxter 6
Martha Baxter 4 Months

Archibald in l9ll - Liz


1911 census - household transcription

Person: BAXTER, Mary
Address: 23 Hack Road Tidal Basin

BAXTER, Mary Head Widow F 50 1861 Nurse Grennock Scotland Resident VIEW
BAXTER, Harry Son M 20 1891 Labourer Essex Westham VIEW
BAXTER, Archibald Son M 18 1893 Labourer Essex Westham VIEW
BAXTER, Maud Daughter F 9 1902 VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9491 Reference:
RG14PN9491 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED21 SN57

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Canning Town Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
23 Hack Road Tidal Basin

Liz

What is the last record you have of Archi in the UK? I can see him on the 1891/1901 but not on the 1911?

Hang on his parents are listed as Scotish on the English census. Do you think he could have taken his parents roots as to his nationality?

Seems too much of a coincidence regarding the US census and shipping records posted?

Many thanks for the replies. Archibald was born in West Ham, his father was John Baxter, and mother Mary nee Adams. Both his parents were born in Greenock. I do not know his wife's maiden name, as I cannot find a marriage for Archibald to a Jenny/Jennifer. I don't think it is him in l920, as he married his first wife in l9ll in West Ham, and they had a child born in 1915.
Liz

1920 United States Federal Census
about Archbold Baxter
Name: Archbold Baxter
[Archbolad Baxter]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 16, New York, New York
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Jennie Baxter
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1911
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Archbold Baxter 32
Jennie Baxter 25 <<<Swedish
Archbold Baxter 5 <<Chauffeur
James Baxter 2
[2 3/12]
Yustuie Lyft 23

There is a tree on Ancestry for a Archibald Baxter (b1887)married to Jenny Ahlgren(1894-1954 but it shows him as being born Forfarshire
This tree has him travelling to New York and arriving 16 Oct 1914
There are 3 children on the record
Archibald Gilchrist Baxter b 1914
James Robertson Baxter b 1917
Elizabeth Baxter b1923
His death is recorded as 21 January 1960 Wainscott NY
Just a coincidence of names ??

Are you sure that he was English and not Scotish?

There is a tree with the same details as you give but he is Scotish, his father is Archibald too

What was his wifes maiden name?

Jenny Ahlgren ????

Yes please, info. after their arrival in USA. He appears to have left/divorced his first wife, and emigrated with a new family, although I cannot find a marriage for him and Jenny in England. We don't know if he stayed in the USA or returned to England.
Thanks, Liz

Ref
passenger transcript details
Name: Archibald BAXTER
Date of departure: 8 December 1922
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1887 (calculated from age)
Age: 35
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Chauffeur
Passenger recorded on: Page 16 of 24





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Archibald BAXTER Page 16 of 24 View transcript
James BAXTER Page 16 of 24 View transcript
Jenny BAXTER Page 16 of 24 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
BALTIC
118101
J Roberts
White Star Line
New York, USA
8039
23884
539



Regards Vera

Please can any member help me find details about my great uncle and his family, who went to New York in l922. Their names were Archibald Baxter, born 1888 West Ham, his wife, Jenny and two sons Archibald and James.
Many thanks, Liz