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Hi

I would love some help to go further back in the Adamson family line from Norfolk.
I am following William John Adamson born 28 August 1845 at Old Buckenham, Norfolk. He married 15 May 1871 St Nicholas Gt Yarmouth to Sabina Jane Smith.
Both died in New Zealand

Williams parents were William Holmes Adamson and Lydia Smith. William was christened 28 May 1826 at St Lawrence Church, South Walsham. He married Lydia 29 Jan 1844 All Saints Church, Old Buckenham, Norfolk. William died Jan 1886 Gt Yarmouth, Lydia in Auckland, NZ.

Williams parents were William Adamson who was christened 2 August 1802 (Free UK Parish Register) parents John Adamson and Tabitha Burroughs. He married Lydia Holmes 30 August 1824 St Edmund Church, Acle, Norfolk. William died abt July 1880 Attleborough, Norfolk. Lydia died abt June 1857 Wayland, Nofolk.

All Williams occupations were schoolmasters.

I would like help to go further back on Williams parents John and Tabitha. Free Uk Parish Registers Burials give me burial dates of Tabitha as 19 May 1837 and John as 9 March 1822. Family search gives me a marriage date of 20 March 1790 East Denham, Norfolk.

Please can anyone help me further with finding out any more info on John and Tabitha. Would love to get back further than the marriage and find John and Tabithas christening or parents etc.

Any help very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Irene

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

Name:Tabitha Dagless

Spouse:John Adamson

Spouse Comments:Maltishall

Marriage Date:1790 <<<March 2nd

Parish:Litcham


County Norfolk
Place Litcham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 64
MarriageDate 05 Apr 1790
GroomForename John
GroomSurname ADAMSON
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode Mattishall
BrideForename Tabitha
BrideSurname DAGLESS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Litcham
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Mary
WitnessOneSurname LYNES
WitnessTwoForename Lucy
WitnessTwoSurname BRONE
Notes By License Bride Marked
FileNumber 16505




It looks like she was married previously


County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church St Nicholas At
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 05 Sep 1786
GroomForename John
GroomSurname DAGLESS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode Lytcham NFK
BrideForename Tabitha
BrideSurname BURROWS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename
WitnessOneSurname
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
Notes Licence
FileNumber 2822

Thank you very much for the extra marriage info. Very much appreciated.

Irene

Death of her first husband?

First name(s): John
Last name DAGLESS
Date of burial: 28 Aug 1788
Age at death: 33
Calculated year of birth: 1755
Place of burial: Litcham
Dedication: All Saints
County: Norfolk
Notes:
Litcham All Saints
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1714 - 2004
Number of entries 2,807

Children from first marriage:

Name: Mary Dagless
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Feb 1787
Christening Place: Litcham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Dagless
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Tabitha Burrough
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07540-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1951408
Reference ID: 1787

Name: Charlotte Dagless
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Sep 1788
Christening Place: Litcham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Tabitha Burroughs Dagless
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07540-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1951408
Reference ID: 1788

another version of the marriage record gives their ages.

Name: John Adamson
Birth Date: 1760
Birthplace:
Age: 30
Spouse's Name: Tabitha Dagloss
Spouse's Birth Date: 1764
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 26
Event Date: 20 Mar 1790
Event Place: East Denham, Norfolk, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07393-1
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1596566
Reference ID: pg 165

Fantastic. Thanks for the info. Pity it didn't give more parent into. Appreciate the help.

Thanks.
Irene

It's frustrating not to be able to access baptism records for Mattishall and Litcham for the relevant period. I know there's no guarantee that's where they were born, but I'd like to be able to check it out.

I have access to nfhs record's,
what do you want to know,is it the birth 's of Tabitha burrows and john adamson.

Hi

Thank you for your reply. Yes please anything would help to try and locate John and Tabitha Adamsons birthplace, christening or parents names as we have come to a brickwall with these two. It would be fantastic if we could go back a little further.

Your help is very much appreciated. Thank you for your kindness.

Irene

hi Irene,
no luck at the moment on john & Tabitha but I have found this---

Norwich st john timberhill baptisms.

adamson ralph.
21 02 1798.
father john--
mother Tabitha (burroughs.)


adamson Thomas.
25 05 1800.
father john--
mother Tabitha (burroughs).

I am still looking for them.

hi Irene,
I still cannot find any detail's on john & Tabitha,i took a look on mundia and 2 people have them both in their tree's,there was a problem with viewing them so I will look again tomorrow.

have you checked ancestry to see if anyone has them in their tree,just as a pointer to give you a starting place.

Hi

Thanks for trying to find the christenings for me. Unfortunately I do not have a subscription to ancestry. I did have one a while back which expired but when I looked at renewing they have put their prices up very expensive. Unfortunately with the exchange rate it is a bit difficult for me to be able to renew again but would like to try another sub sometime down the line.

Maybe there is someone with an ancestry sub who could look at the trees for me.

Thanks again for the info. I appreciate it and look forward to hearing from you again.

Irene

The public trees on Ancestry can be viewed for free on Mundia while it's in the beta phase, as they are both owned by Ancestry.

(though martynsue said there was a problem with the Mundia site today)

http://www.mundia.com/ca/

The public trees on Ancestry have hit the same brick wall as you, and one had Tabitha Burroughs as both married to, and fathered by, John Adamson...!!!!!

Children, whom you probably already have, are listed as Catherine, John, James, Maria, Ralph, Thomas, William and Tabitha.

Thanks for the website info and the children info. Didn't have the website info. Very Interesting.

Irene

some people seem to have Tabitha's parent's as john burroughs & Elizabeth.

I have been looking at the Norfolk record's and found this one, it is in the right time frame but I am not saying these are her parent's.

john burroughs & Elizabeth Fairchild.
20 june 1756.
st George tombland.
Norwich.

also someone has Tabitha burroughs 1762 in there tree,no place of birth recorded but maybe you could send a personal message to them,you never know they may have some info.

I still cannot find Tabitha's birth,

Thanks for the info on John and Elizabeth and also on Tabitha. Thrilled to have this info as I haven't had anything on any parents of John so its a good start.

Thank you very much for your kindness in helping me out. I do appreciate it very much.

Irene

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
FS's main collections are:
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
England Marriages, 1538–1973

However, there's fair number of other sets for Norfolk - most are unindexed, or at best, partly indexed.
Try a search first, before resorting to browsing the images - check out the following paths:
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Litcham > Marriages > 1768-1799 > Image 11 of 15

England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Litcham > Index to Baptisms > 1550-1809 > Image 147 of 179
[Not the original & I don't see a Tabitha, but there is a Charlotte bp 1/5/1764 d/o Joseph & Mary Dagless]

This path leads to original:
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Litcham > Baptisms, Marriages, Burials > 1714-1812 > Image 18 of 86
[In addition to Charlotte, there's Mary bp 2/8/1761 - there's a nice entry near top of LH page:
Jermery, travelling Comedians, was bap'd April 2d 1758]

As you know, or at least could guess, the church made its own back-up copy of the parish registers.
These were usually called the Bishop's Transcripts, although in Norfolk, one often comes across the Archdeacon's Transcripts.
Note Gins post refers to: Church St Nicholas At
Normally, I would expect Church St Nicholas AT, but that's how FreeREG does it for BTs/ATs.

England, Norfolk Archdeac...'s Transcripts, 1600-1812 > Norfolk > Mattishall > 1726-1812 > Baptisms, Marriages, Burials > Image 22 of 112
[I don't see any 1760 Adamson]

Wow. Thats great. Thank you. I will take a look at the images. Fantastic to be able to get some addition information on the extra children.

Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated.

Irene