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I am trying to find out information about Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick who was born in Durban,South Africa about 1916.

Edith's parents were William Kilpatrick & Fanny Thorpe.

If my research so far is correct Edith married a gentleman by the name of David Lawson Baird in Durban in 1939.

David Lawson Baird originally came from Scotland.

I am told that Edith was named after Edith Cavell the nurse who was executed by the Germans as a spy in World War 1

I am trying to find what became of Edith & did she have a family with David Baird.

Any assistance would be appreciated as I seem to have come to a dead end

Regards,

Dougie

You probably already have this.

David Lawson Baird
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1907
Age: 49
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 28 Jun 1957
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Edinburgh Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Edinburgh Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 3007/01

Address in UK c/o Barclays Bank, Cockspur Strret, London

Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick
mentioned in the record of David Lawson Baird and Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick
Name: David Lawson Baird
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 06 May 1939
Event Place: Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
Spouse's Name: Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1916

could these be their children

David Baird
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957
birth: 1945 S African
immigration: 1948 New York City, New York, United States

Rosemary Baird
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957
birth: 1946 S African
immigration: 1948 New York City, New York, United States

Denis Baird
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957
birth: 1948 S African
immigration: 1948 New York City, New York, United States

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Name: Charles Gresham Shillito
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Nov 1955
Event Place: Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender: Male
Age: 52
Birth Year (Estimated): 1903
Spouse's Name: Margaret Manson Cormack Baird
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 5
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1950

Reference ID: 838 , GS Film number: 1938637 , Digital Folder Number: 004236685 , Image Number: 00838

Name: Samuel Milliken
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Dec 1925
Event Place: Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Spouse's Name: Nellie Thorpe Kilpatrick
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1902

Reference ID: cn1277 , GS Film number: 1795813 , Digital Folder Number: 004236652 , Image Number: 02789

Name: David Lawson Baird
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 06 May 1939
Event Place: Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
Spouse's Name: Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1916

Reference ID: 433 , GS Film number: 1938568 , Digital Folder Number: 004236671 , Image Number: 00434

Thank you all for your responses.

My cousin in Australia had asked me to try to find out about Edith.

Edith also had a sister Jean Smith Kilpatrick who married a Peter Louis Du Plessis in Durban in 1936.

Du Plessis would appear to be a common name in South Africa.

I have also tried using this as an avenue of research but no joy.

David Lawson Baird was a twin born in Clepington Road Dundee in 1907.

His twin brother was James Dewar Baird.

I have tried looking at the Scottish Records for clues but again no joy.

I will take a look at Ellis Island to have a look about the possibility of them moving to the USA.

Again thank you all,


Dougie

looks like she had a sister Nellie as well

Good call Ann

Nellie's mother's maiden name was Thorpe

William Kilpatrick & Fanny Thorpe were married in Scotland in 1901.

I was told that they had emigrated to South Africa but that any children from the marriage were born in Durban,South Africa.

I have passed on the information given to my cousin in Australia.

Again I thank everyone for their assistance.

Dougie

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Name: Jean Smith Kilpatrick
Role: Self
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1911
Birth Place: South Africa
Registration Date: 28 Jun 1911
Father: Thomson Kilpatrick
Mother: Annie Jack Robertson
Collection: Birth Records

Well done Ann. Here is Nellie with mother Fanny 42 and Edith 7. Country of intended future residence was Scotland.

Name: Nellie Thorpe Kilpatrick
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 20
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 27 Mar 1923
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Borda
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Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 135340
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Well they didn't stay long as this is them all returning to SA. Travelling with Mrs F and Miss E. There is also 26 year old Mr S Milliken.


Name: Miss N Kilpatrick, stenographer
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1902
Departure Date: 17 Aug 1923
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa
Ship Name: Windsor Castle
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Shipping line: The Union-Castle Mail Steamship Co, Ltd
Official Number: 146535
Master: G K Gandy

With her mother, 25 year old Mrs F.

Name: Miss N Kilpatrick
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 2
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1905
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Wakool
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Shipping line: Blue Anchor Line
Official Number: 109996
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Name: Edith Kilpatrick
Birth Date: abt 1916
Age: 14
Port of Departure: Australia
Arrival Date: 25 Sep 1930
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Euripides
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Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 133648


With 53 year old William, a turner, and Fanny 50. Previous address in UK was Mr Milliken, Summerfield Cottages, Whiteinch?, Glasgow.






Edith Kilpatrick

in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Edith Kilpatrick
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Birth Date: abt 1916
Departure Date: 28 Apr 1923
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Boston, USA
Ship Name: Laconia
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Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 145925
Master: Captain F G Brown

Last address in UK was 13 Watt St, Glasgow.




Edith Kilpatrick

in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963

Name: Edith Kilpatrick
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Sa colonial
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Birth Place: Durban, S Africa
Age: 7
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Laconia
Arrival Date: 6 May 1923
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Alice Thomson
Last Residence: Natal


With Fanny 42 and Nellie 20. Fanny was Scotch, Nellie was English and Edith was SA Colonial.
Wm Kilpatrick, Hillary PO was their nearest relative.

No idea who Alice Thomson is. There is no one of this name mentioned.

Name: Fanny Kilpatrick
Gender: Female
Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1881
Departure Date: 10 May 1935
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: Boston, USA
Ship Name: Caledonia
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Shipping line: Anchor Line Limited
Official Number: 148878
Master: Alex Collie


With William 56. Last address was 434 St George's Rd, Glasgow.



Name: Fanny Kilpatrick
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: English
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Age: 54
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Caledonian
Arrival Date: 19 May 1935
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: H Thomson
Last Residence: England

Here we have the Friend's Name: H Thomson again.

William was 56, a retired engineer born in Glasgow. Last permanent residence had been Southsea in England.




Fanny Kilpatrick

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Fanny Kilpatrick
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 55
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 4 Aug 1935
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Transylvania
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Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 147871


With William 58. Address was 25 Gillespie Crescent, Edinburgh and Scotland was the country of future residence.

Is this perhaps from your cousin's tree on ancestry?



Fanny Thorpe
Birth abt 1881 in England
Death 24 Jul 1945 in Royal Infirmary, Townhead, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland



Marriage to William Kilpatrick
1901 17 Sep Age: 20
946 Dumbarton Rd, Whiteinch, Partick, Lanarkshire, Scotland



From another tree


PARENTS

Archibald Thorpe
1835 – 1887

Helen "Ellen" Auld
1839 – 1903


PARENTS FOR WILLIAM


John Kilpatrick
– 1901

Annie Gibb
– 1901

This may be of interest. Not finding anything for Edith and David though. :-(

DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 1766/1967
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MILLIKEN, SAMUEL. BORN IN GLASGOW. S SP MILLIKEN, NELLIE THORPE.
BORN KILPATRICK. DECEASED ESTATE.
STARTING 19670000
ENDING 19680000

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?201504151308376E4B7A5B





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DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 2898/1959
PART 1
DESCRIPTION KILPATRICK, WILLIAM. BORN IN GLASGOW - SCOTLAND. PR/SP KILPATRICK,
FANNY. DECEASED ESTATE.
STARTING 19590000
ENDING 19600000

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?201504151304206E4B7A5B&DN=00000081

May I thank everyone for their assistance in my research.

My cousin in Australia has been trying to find out about this branch of his family for many years.

I decided to order some credits from Scotland's People as the South African Marriage Records to not seem to show the bride & groom's parents.

I can now discount Jean Smith Kilpatrick as her parents shown are not correct.

Samual MilliKen was born in Glasgow in1896

He had a twin brother John Milliken born on the same day(1896)

Samuel Milliken's mother Mary Milliken died in Glasgow aged 89 in 1955

Her address was given as 1 Summerfield Cottages,Whiteinch,Glasgow

This helps to confirm Alviegal's post

Nellie Kilpatrick & Samuel Milliken were both on the ship travelling to South Africa in 1923

What my cousin has been trying to find out over the years is what ultimately became of members of this branch of the family.

William Gibb Kilpatrick, Nellie Thorpe Kilpatrick, & Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick were cousins to his late father who was born in Scotland but emigrated to Australia in the 1920's

We know that William Gibb Kilpatrick had a daughter born in Portsmouth in 1944.

Did William's sisters have families?

The knowledge of members of GR is truly astounding.

Again thank you all for your assistance.

Dougie

Am nudging this thread up because

1. Dougie has a new thread about the same people

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355490

2. Today is the 100th anniversary of the death of Edith Cavell - mentioned in the opening post

ADDED:

I see some jobsworth has flexed their little trigger finger and reported that other thread. Sad sad person. All I did was put a link to connect the two threads.

After some time I have undertaken some additional research on behalf of my cousin into a family who emigrated from Scotland to South Africa.

I have concentrated to the youngest member of the family namely Edith Kathleen Kilpatrick who was born in South Africa in 1915 and married a Scotsman by the name of David Lawson Baird in Durban 1939.

I decided to concentrate on David Lawson Baird as I had no success in trying to find out any additional information about Edith.

I found that David Lawon Baird,his twin brother James Dewar Baird, his father David,mother Christine,brother Robert, and sister Anna had all emigrated from Scotland to South Africa in 1919.

I have now found out that David Lawson Baird died in South Africa in 1984 and his wife Edith Kathleen Baird died again in South Africa in 2008.

I am very sure that there are children born in South Africa from this marriage but my trail has gone cold.

My cousin has tried for many years to find out about this family.

Any assistance in finding out about any descendants of this family would be very appreciated.

Doug