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Thank you all for your help,I have been able to obtain the wills for William Snowling & his wife Elizabeth Ann.
I think the connection is with Jane Snowling born 1760 (sister of William Snowling )who married Nicholas Mills. I only had him down as marrying a Jane (no Surname) he was my husbands 3x Grandfather,his daughter Hannah Mills was his 2x grandmother.

On William Snowling's Will he mentions nephews Simon & Daniel Mills sons of Nicholas who happen to be his nephews.

I have now discovered that Ethelinda Harris (nee Stearn ) had children to Charles Willingale. Census 5th-6th April 1891 she was living with her neice Charlotte Dodd at 6 Hengage Lane as Ethelinda Harris then found her under the name of Willingale admitted 7th August discharged 26th September (she was sick ) at the Bow Road Workhouse her address was down as 6 Hengage Lane.

I have sent for a death certificate for a Ethelinda Willingale who died in 1895 aged 80 years the age is right so hope I have got the right Ethelinda
Thanks again everyone

I would try contacting the Suffolk records office and see what they offer.

I looked at some old wills in Northampton RO, which it didn't cost me to do. Their copy service is not immediate and I don't live nearby.

They can't photocopy because of damaging the items, but were able to make copies using an overhead digital camera for the cost of £10 each - they were then transferred to me via a downloadable e-mail attachment through a service they call "We Transfer'. They give a 7 day period from receipt in which to download the images before the files are automatically deleted from the We Transfer website.

So, much cheaper than whatever service you are looking at - less than $20, if available via Suffolk RO.

Does anyone know if it costs to view a Will at the records office? I have 2 Wills I would like copies off unfortunately I live in Western Australia to obtain them it is going to cost me over $100 with all the exchange rates. I was wondering if there is some kind person who often goes to the Record Office that could look them up & perhaps photograph & email them to me. I am not expecting anyone to pay for these. I know I am being cheeky asking this,but can not think of another way other than paying for them. Appreciate any help maybe someone already has this information in their family tree

I think Elizabeth Ann who married William Snowling was Elizabeth Ann Mills born 21/10/1780 Quay Meeting House Independent Woodbridge Bapt 21/10/1780 parents James Mills & Elizabeth Caroline ?
Ethelinda's mother was a Hannah Mills born abt 1790 Suffolk died 7/11/1827 Melton Suffolk.
There must be a connection here somewhere?

Yes Ethelinda's parents were Joseph Stearn & Hannah Mills I have all of this information thanks, including the convictions of the 3 sons (who were all transported to Australia ) & father who died in Melton 10/12/ 1840 Hannah died 17/11/1827.
I to have looked for Jane's parents hoping it to be Snowling.
I have Joseph & Hannah's marriage & death certificates I also have Ethelinda & Edward Harris marriage certificate William Snowling was a witness for Ethelinda
Thank you for the Auction information I did not have this
Yes it is me on Curiousfox

06 April 1822 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

William Snowling, ard Win. Dow, for a brgaliry in tie dlwellingihou.ic of 'ir. Gosling, of' Fressingfield ; Williamt Aldous, tor setting ...”


08 May 1822 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Wednesday morning the following convicts were removed from Ipswich County Gaol, to be put on board the hulks at Portsmouth: — William Snowling, Wm. Dow, William Barber, Taylor Jacob, Jas. Thurlow , James Ling, and Geor»e Hunter. Committed to Ipswich Borough Gaol ...”


02 May 1840 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser

CASE OF Assault. Snowling stearn, of Melton, labourer, and William Maijoram, of Bredfield, jobber, appeared before the Magistrates to answer a charge of ...”


15 November 1851 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

William Snowling Stearn, for stealing fifteen wooden rails from a fence io the occupation of Emma Blanud. of Melton: 21 days' herdt labour.-Wiliam ...”


(above relate to Australia one, probably more Newspapers)


SNOWLING William Surry 1823 44/413 Ticket of Leave [4/4185; Reel 951] District: Bathurst; Tried: Suffolk QS

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

Chris :)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(looks to be in above also, Aus. Newspapers)

Hannah Mills' parents & Siblings (I was hoping her mother's name had maybe been Snowling, but can't find what it was):

http://www.members.shaw.ca/claydonpsn/pafg206.htm#9997

Nicholas MILLS was born about 1760 in Suffolk, England. He married Jane.

Jane was born about 1760 in Suffolk, England. She married Nicholas MILLS.

They had the following children:

M i Simon MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 15 Dec 1782 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England.
M ii William MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 19 Jan 1786 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England.
M iii Daniel MILLS was christened on 03 Jun 1787.
F iv Hannah MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 02 May 1790 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England.
F v Lucy MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 28 Jan 1793 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England.

Found on CuriousFox - possibly posted by you, Ellen, if you live in Perth, Australia?:

Ethelinda Stearn
I am looking for any further information on my Ethelinda Stearn.
This is what I already know
Born 1820 Suffolk; Baptisted 11th June 1820 at All Saints Stanton Suffolk.
Married 9th May 1839 to a Edward Harris at St Mary's ? Ipswich
Her parents were Joseph Stearn born abt 1772 Bradfield St Clare Suffolk died 10th December 1840 at Melton Suffolk & Hannah Mills born abt 1790 Ubbeston Suffolk died 7th November 1827 Melton Suffolk buried Beaumont Baptist Church Melton Suffolk.
Siblings (1 ) Joseph Stearn 10th December 1812 Baptisted 10th January 1813 died 3rd October 1889 at 24 Lishburn Road All Saints Newmarket
(2) Edward Stearn born 1814 Melton Suffolk Baptisted 11th June 1820 died 14th January 1889 at 57 Clarke Street, City of Melbourne
(3) Daniel 1815 Suffolk Baptisted 3rd February 1815 died 26th July 1868 at Warnambool Victoria Australia
(4) William Snowling Stearn 6th June 1821 Suffolk Baptisted 1st April 1824 died 22nd November 1912 Wangaratta Victoria
(5) Elizabeth Ann born 22nd May 1823 Suffolk Baptisted 1st August 1824 died 3rd April 1896 26 Philpot Lane Yenchurch Street, Sub Dist of Allhallows I have her marriage
EDWARD DANIEL & WILLIAM SNOWLING were all convicts sent to Australia
I have all of their convictions & marriages & children
If anyone call fill me in on anything more for Ethelinda born 1820 I would really appreciate it Thank You

this is probably about the William Snowling you think may have married Elizabeth Ann:

http://www.suffolkcamra.co.uk/pubs/brewery/333

A report in the Ipswich Journal** in Sep 1840 states :

To be sold by auction, by the instructions of Mr Snowling, who is retiring from business, the capital plant of his brewery in Lower Orwell Street, Ipswich; comprising a capital nearly new 160 gallon copper, with large tap and furnace; stout 5 barrel liquor back, with pipe; superior stout iron bound 5 coomb mash tub, with false bottom and cover; underback, 3 copper fastened cooling backs 8ft by 5ft each, the copper stage and brick belonging to the copper, 9 iron bound strong 3 barrel beer stands; hogshead, barrels, half barrels, firkins, truck, wort pump with brass valve, several broad staved ladders, 2 oak iron bound working backs, stillions; the building in the yard used as a brewery, with roof over copper; capital malt mill, with hopper, by Ransome; bushel and half bushel measures, carpenter's bench, chest, tools; 2 oak beams. Deal partition in tap room, 16ft by 6ft high, with glazed frame on the top; several brass beer taps, tin cans; quart, pint, half pint mugs; Quantity of sacks, several long forms, circular form with high back, round and square tables, mahogany beer waiter, excellent saccharometer in mahogany box, siphon, and other effects.

Just for the record, (though not relevant to the search for the link between Elizabeth Ann and Ethelinda) here's the marriage of Charles Willingale and Kezia -:

Kezia Jones Hooper
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Kezia Jones Hooper
Spouse: Charles Whellingale
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1834
Parish: St James, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register


And probably Kezia in 1901 (widow, formerly needlewoman):

Keziah Willingale
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Keziah Willingale
Age: 88
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: N, Feeble Minded
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, institution, or vessel: Chelsea Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 76
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 1


And in 1891, with daughter Kezia:

Kezia J Willingall
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Kezia J Willingall
Age: 78
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 22a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1047
Folio: 89
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Kezia J Willingall 78 - widow
Kezia L Willingall 49

William Snowling Stearn was the brother of Ethelinda, I have been searching for sometime to find out where the name Snowling came from.
Finding Elizabeth Ann Snowling being the aunt of Ethelinda makes me think this is the connection but where? is it with her husband William Snowling?

I found Ethelinda Harris aged 75 years in 1891 living with her Niece Charlotte (nee Cuttriss) Dodd & husband Robert (a customs officer) at 6 Hengage Lane St Katherine Cree London living on her own means.
I assumed she did not remarry.

And on that note, I've just seen the time - no lunch yet and the dog needs to go out!!

This is interesting !!

Joseph Stearn
mentioned in the record of William Snowling Stearn
Name Joseph Stearn
Gender Male
Wife Hannah Mills
Son William Snowling Stearn
Name William Snowling Stearn <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender Male
Christening Date 01 Aug 1824
Christening Place INDEPENDENT,WOODBRIDGE,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
Birth Date 06 Jun 1821
Father's Name Joseph Stearn
Mother's Name Hannah Mills
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

If anyone has access to the Genealogist then the image is available on that site. As it's non-conformist you might get Hannah Mills parents names recorded.

EDIT - lots of trees on Ancestry with him in - married and died Australia

??? "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch

Joseph Stearn
mentioned in the record of Joseph Stearn and Hannah Mills
Name Joseph Stearn
Spouse's Name Hannah Mills
Event Date 03 Jun 1811
Event Place Melton,Suffolk,England

I have just noticed in your 13:03 post that you say Ethelinda is Harris nee Stearn !!

Ethelinda Stearn
England Births and Christenings
Name Ethelinda Stearn
Gender Female
Christening Date 11 Jun 1820
Christening Place SUFFOLK COUNTY BTS, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
Birthplace STANTON ALL SAINTS
Father's Name Joseph Stearn
Mother's Name Hannah

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Ethelinda Stearn
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Ethelinda Stearn
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1839
Registration District Ipswich
County Suffolk
Event Place Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Volume 12
Page 479
Line Number 88

Ethelinda Stearn probably married one of the following people
Name Frederic Hardee
Name Edward Harris
Name Jane Rands
Name Henry Rush
Name Lydia Southgate

Name: Charles Willingale Harris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1858
Mother's name: Ethelinda Harris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets


Born (? 6th) June 1857. No Father named. Abode 9 (Ladylakis?) Grove

Name: Elizabeth Ethelinda Willingale
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 May 1852
Father's name: Charles Willingale
Mother's name: Ethelinda Willingale
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 15.4.1852 Abode Turner Street. Father an Omnibus Driver

I can't find a Willingale/Kezia marriage


London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: William George Willingale
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1838
Father's name: Charles Willingale - a Coachman
Mother's name: Keziah Willingale
Parish or Poor Law Union: Vincent Square St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

born 17.3.1838

and also same date Samuel Richard Jones Willingale b 22.7.1836

Abode - 2 Brady's Place

Could this be Charles's first wife? If so, they must have separated. Certainly I can't see a death for her before he appears with Ethelinda, as well as not being able to find a Willingale/ Harris marriage..

She's listed as unmarried here - of course might be someone completely different . . . ..


Kesia Willingale
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Kesia Willingale
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: 1817
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: St Anns, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 335
Piece: 101
Folio: 136
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Willingale 53
Kesia Willingale 44