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Lilian was born in 1915 in Yorkshire.

Lilian was my grandmother and had my dad when she was married to Thomas Weston Hession in Blackpool in the mid to late thirties. She had also been married for the first time to a man from Yorkshire call Arnold R Woolhouse.

Many thanks, Sandra.

Different birth year given in 1939 if this is her.

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Hessin Household (7 People)
30 Warwick Road , Blackpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Thomas Hession
DOB 12 May 1936
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Under School Age
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 305
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Thomas W Hessin
DOB 16 Apr 1905
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Labourer Highways
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 305
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Lilian Hessin
DOB 30 Dec 1913
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 305
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Phy? Wilde
DOB 26 Jan 1901
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Sewing Machinist
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 305
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 4

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Robert Wilde
DOB 19 Dec 1937
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Under School Age
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 305
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 6

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Ref: RG101/4244H/004/36 Letter Code:
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The only Yorkshire birth of a Lilian Bradbury 1914 +/- 5 years which would fit a December birthdate if that is her on the 1939 register posted.

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) LILIAN
Last name BRADBURY
Birth year 1913
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Bamforth
District Ecclesall Bierlow
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Page 798

It's a little unusual that the 1939 register hasn't been updated to show a marriage in 1943.

Probably the baptism of the above Lilian, although this gives birth month as November not December

Yorkshire Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Lilian
Last name Bradbury
Birth year 1913
Birth date 30 Nov 1913
Baptism year 1914
Baptism date 23 Jan 1914
Baptism place Sheffield, St Philip
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John Herbert
Mother's first name(s) Lucy
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Archive reference PR-10-7
Page 22
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms

Father a Joiner
Address - 345 Walkly Bank Road

Marriage of the above Lilian's parents, confirming mmn

Yorkshire Marriages Transcription

First name(s) John Herbert
Last name Bradbury
Age 27
Birth year 1883
Residence 173 St Philips RD
Marriage year 1910
Marriage date 12 Jun 1910
Marriage place Sheffield, St Stephen
Spouse's first name(s) Lucy
Spouse's last name Bamforth <<<<<
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's residence 173 St Philips Rd
Father's first name(s) Seth Frith
Father's last name Bradbury
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Bamforth
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Page 55
Record set

Do you have that marriage certificate please. Are you certain that it was your Lilian who married Douglas Grundy?

Is this ER record just a coincidence or is it your Lilian?

Lillian
Last name Hession
Age guide
Address Orchard Lodge Nursing Home, 601/603, Lytham Road, Blackpool, Lancashire, FY4 1RG
Town Blackpool
District Blackpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Year 2002
Electoral rolls 2002

Lily Hesson
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth:
24 April 1915

death registration:
February 1999
Preston & South Ribble, Lancashire, England

Douglas and Lilian Grundy travelled with some of Douglas's family to USA. That Lilian was 28 years old so born c1921. I don't think she's your Lilian.

Douglas
Last name Grundy
Gender Male
Age 25
Birth year 1924
Marital status M
Occupation PAINTER
Departure year 1949
Departure day 19
Departure month 5
Departure port Southampton
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Queen Elizabeth
Ship official number 166290
Ship master's first name C M
Ship master's last name FORD
Shipping line CUNARD WHITE STAR LIMITED
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship registered tonnage 42011.22
Number of passengers 1385
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

An old thread dragged up today which also has replies now

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/632328?jump=632328

Thanks greyghost. I see you've come up with the same information I've found.

Transferring infi from the older thread.



Sandra, as has already been pointed out, this is an old thread. I am posting the 1939 for for the Lilian who married Douglas Grundy so it doesn't look like she is 'your Lilian.'


Hession Household (5 People) 251 York Street , Leigh M.B., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Lillian Grundy (Hession) 12 Jun 1920 Female Horsiery Fitter Single 338 3
Martin Hession 12 Jul 1901 Male Leading Stoker Electricity W Married 338 1
Annie Hession 11 Apr 1901 Female Frane Tenter Cotton Spinne Married 338 2
James Hession 20 Jul 1923 Male Appent Iron Moulder Single 338 4




I wonder if this is your Lilian's birth and family.

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Bradbury Lilian Bamforth Ecclesall B 9c 798
Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
BRADBURY John H Bamforth Ecclesall B. 9c 764


John Herbert
Last name Bradbury
Age 27
Birth year 1883
Residence 173 St Philips RD
Marriage year 1910
Marriage date 12 Jun 1910
Marriage place Sheffield, St Stephen
Spouse's first name(s) Lucy
Spouse's last name Bamforth
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's residence 173 St Philips Rd
Father's first name(s) Seth Frith
Father's last name Bradbury
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Bamforth




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25 Blake St Sheffield, Ecclesall, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Seth Frith Bradbury Head Married Male Pipe Fitter 51 1860 Sheffield
Transcription
Lilly Elize Bradbury Wife Married Female - 49 1862 Belper
Transcription
>>John Herbert Bradbury Son Married Male Wheelwrigh 28 1883 Sheffield
Transcription
>>Lucy Bradbury Wife Married Female - 26 1885 Sheffield

As Sandra is new to the boards, I have sent her a PM to let her know that she has replies on here. I have asked her to give her opinion on the findings on here so we all know that she has seen them.



Mrs. Rootie

Thanks everyone, a bit overwhelmed with what i am seeing and going to find time today to process the information properly. Rootgatherer, the top post is definately them, the child is my dad whose birthday was 12 March in Blackpool so not doubt there. The reason i am onto the Grundy link is that when she abandoned my dad and grandad (supposedly for another man) his identity was never revealed/spoken of, the whole family closed up and it was not spoken of despite my dad asking. There was also zero links with the Bradbury family too which i have always found odd. As i searched for Lilian Hession/Bradbury/Woolhouse the only thing that came up was a marriage in 1943 of Lilian Hession & Douglas Grundy so i assumed it must be her as the name Hession is not that common, seems it was my mistake so back to the drawing board on that one, it is a complete mystery what happened to her and it would seem it continues. Thanks so much for all your help as i am really hitting dead ends everywhere and have been for years. Thanks again. x

PS: When i applied for and got my dads birth certificate it stated Lilians age as 21 years old in March 1936 so i just assumed she was a 1915 birth.

Grey Ghost - Yes that is my Lillian her mother was Lucy Bamforth and John Bradbury, many thanks as i now at least know when she was born/birth month etc, anything helps. x

Aha !!! - It seems that 'our Lilian' was a bigamist !! ;-)


BIGAMY CHARGE
BIGAMY CHARGE
Woolhouse, Talbot-road, Blackpool, and she was charged on warrant that at Blackpool, on September 28th she feloniously married Thomas Hession, her husband, Arnold Ronald Woolhouse, to whom she was previously married in November. 1931, being then alive. Inspector
17 October 1935 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, E

Just have to marinate the chicken and then I will read through the articles and 'try' to post them..........

Might be something helpful in there?

Dea x

Can I ask where you got your father's birth certificate from as a birth certificate would not usually have the mother's age on it?

Kath. x

Nice find Dea-

A slightly later article in the paper re the bigamy charge:

Lancashire Evening Post - Wednesday 23 October 1935

ALLEGED BIGAMY —?—
Blackpool Bench Send Girl for Trial

Blackpool magistrates to-day committed for trial, at the next Manchester Assizes, Lilian Woolhouse (21), of Talbot-road, Blackpool, on a charge of alleged bigamy. She had appeared on remand and her bail was renewed. Mr. E. C. Lee, senior assistant solicitor to the Blackpool Corporation, prosecuted, and said that the girl was charged on warrant that, at Blackpool on September 28th, she unlawfully married Thomas Hession, her husband. Arnold Ronald Woolhouse, of Thorsby-road, Walkley, Sheffield, then being alive.

In court, the girl when charged, said, I admit that I have committed bigamy. I do not wish to give evidence, or call any witnesses this stage." Arnold Ronald Woolhouse stated that he married the accused at Wadsley Parish Church, Sheffield, on November 28th, 1931. Her name was then Lilian Bradbury. They lived together till September, 1933, and there was a girl of the marriage. Witness added that his wife left him on February 7th, 1934, when she said she was fed up and had obtained a situation at Blackpool. He had not seen her since.

Mary Hession, of Thomas-street, Blackpool, said that on September 28th she was present at St. Kentigern’s Church, Newtondrive. Blackpool, when her brother, Thomas Hession, married the accused in the name of Lilian Bradbury. She (witness) signed the marriage register as a witness. Detective-Sergeant Canning said that when he arrested and charged accused she replied. Yes, I did It for the best.”

Leeds Mercury Wednesday 22 July 1936

Decree nisi granted to Arnold Rowland Woolhouse, Thoresby Road, Walkley, Sheffield: misconduct of Lilian Woolhouse, Talbot Road, Blackpool, with Thomas Weston Hession, at various addresses in Blackpool