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Ernest Greenhill 1873-1955

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Sonya

Sonya Report 10 May 2019 10:42

Please can anyone tell me how to trace his family . He was born in Southsea Portsea Island and died in Sussex. I know and am related to his parents but know nothing of Ernests siblings and children.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2019 10:56

Is this his birth?

GREENHILL, ERNEST OSBORNE mms MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 452

Parents' marriage ??

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
GREENHILL Alfred Henry Anglesey 11b 711
Morgan Helen Anglesey 11b 711


Ernest O. Greenhill
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ernest O. Greenhill
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Alfred H. Greenhill
Mother: Helen Greenhill
Gender: Male
Where born: Southsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 9 Beyront Pl
Marital status: Married [ this is a mistake by the enumerator ! ]
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub registration district: Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 2211
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred H. Greenhill 42 - Rolvenden, Kent, ship's steward, RN seaman
Helen Greenhill 31 - Holyhead
Alfred H.M. Greenhill 9 - Rockferry , Cheshire
Ernest O. Greenhill 7
Nellie N. Greenhill 6 - Southsea
Florence M. Greenhill 5 - Queenstown, Cork
Lilian M. Greenhill 3 - Holyhead
Percy J. Greenhill 1 - Devonport
Jessie Penny 22 - servant
Philippa Cain 21 - servant

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2019 11:02

Goodness! Alfred and Helen were busy - as well as moving around a lot with the RN!


Ernest O Greenhill
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ernest O Greenhill
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1874
Father: Alfred H Greenhill
Mother: Helen Greenhill
Birth Place: Southsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
Residence Place: Plumstead, London, England
Sub registration district: Plumstead, West
ED, Institution or Vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 536
Folio: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred H Greenhill 52
Helen Greenhill 41
Alfred H M Greenhill 19
Ernest O Greenhill 17
Nellie M Greenhill 16
Florence M K Greenhill 14
Lilian M Greenhill 12
Percival J Greenhill 11
Daisy Greenhill 9 - Stoke, Devon
William Greenhill 8 - Dartmouth
Albert E Greenhill 7 - Clapham, London
Gordon C Greenhill 6 - Woolwich
Mabel E Greenhill 4 - Woolwich
Frank C Greenhill 3 - Woolwich
Reginald Greenhill 1 - Woolwich

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 11:15

Name: Alfred Henry Greenhill
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 May 1850
Baptism Place: Parish Church of Tenterden, Kent, England
Father: Alfred Greenhill
Mother: Rachel

Helen
Last name Morgan
Age 22
Birth year 1849
Event year 1871
Banns year -
Marriage year 1871
Marriage date 07 Jan 1871
Marriage place Caergybi / Holyhead
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Morgan
Spouse's first name(s) Alfred Henry
Spouse's last name Greenhill
Spouse's age 32
Spouse's birth year 1839
Spouse's father's last name Greenhill
Spouse's father's first name(s) Alfred

Ellen
Last name Morgan
Birth year 1849
Birth date ? ? 1849
Baptism year 1849
Baptism date 27 Jun 1849
Place Caergybi / Holyhead
County Anglesey
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Page 58


Elizabeth
Last name Greenhill
Birth year 1836
Birth date 17 Sep 1836
Place Tenterden
Denomination Baptist
Father's first name(s) Alfred
Mother's first name(s) Rachel
County Kent
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1013

Mary Exall
Last name Greenhill
Birth year 1834
Birth date 08 Jul 1834
Place Tenterden
Denomination Baptist
Father's first name(s) Alfred
Mother's first name(s) Rachel
County Kent
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1013
Description KENT: Tenterden, Honey Lane (Baptist): Births
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms

Rachel
Last name Greenhill
Birth year 1833
Birth date 09 Apr 1833
Place Tenterden
Denomination Baptist
Father's first name(s) Alfred
Mother's first name(s) Rachel
County Kent
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1013
Description KENT: Tenterden, Honey Lane (Baptist): Births

1861
Private House, High Street, Tenterden, Kent, England
Mary Exall Head Unmarried Female 54 1807 Drawing & Fancy Work Poplar, Middlesex, England
Rachael Greenhill Niece Unmarried Female 27 1834 Milliner Tenterden, Kent, England
Joseph E Greenhill Nephew Unmarried Male 20 1841 School Assistant Rolvenden, Kent, England

1851

Mary Exall Head Widow Female 73 1778 Annuitant Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Mary Exall Daughter Unmarried Female 44 1807 Teacher Of Drawing & Fancy Work Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Rachel Greenhill Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 General Assistant Tenterden, Kent, EnglandWellington Place, Tenterden, Kent, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2019 11:16

Ernest Osborne Greenhill
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ernest Osborne Greenhill
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1082
Records on Page:
Name
Alice Cranston
Ernest Osborne Greenhill



Ernest O Greenhill
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ernest O Greenhill
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: abt 1873
Registration Date: Oct 1955
[Nov 1955]
[Dec 1955]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 504

Probate to Gordon Greenhill, retired insurance adjuster ( his brother ? ) and Doris Helen Kennett, widow.



I don't see the births of children.
Perhaps they lived overseas?

He and Alice are on the London ERs in the 1920's.

Ernest O Greenhill
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ernest O Greenhill
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1873
Residence Year: 1939
Address: St Andrew's House
Residence Place: Droitwich, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Coal & Coke Exporter
Schedule Number: 79
Sub Schedule Number: 29
Enumeration District: QJDG
Registration district: 381-2.
Inferred Spouse: Alice Greenhill - 9 May 1879

Also with them on 1939 Register:
Jean Greenhill 18 May 1922, unmarried

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2019 11:20

Here he is in 1901 (on board ship) and 1911:

Ernest Greenhill
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ernest Greenhill
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Trooper
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Off Netley Southampton Water
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: Harlech Castle
Neighbors:
Piece: 1064
Folio: 78
Household schedule number: 1




Ernest Osborne Greenhill
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ernest Osborne Greenhill
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Southsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Finchley
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 23 Dollis Rd, Church End, Finchley N
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Collery Agents Traveller
Registration district: Barnet
Registration District Number: 131
Sub-registration district: Finchley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 7171
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Osborne Greenhill 37
Alice Greenhill 31

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Doris was the youngest sister who married a Kennett:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GREENHILL, DORIS HELEN MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1321

Rose

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 12:06

1939 for brother gordon

Name: Gordon Greenhill
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1885
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Woodend
Residence Place: Orpington, Kent, England
Occupation: Adjuster Marine Insurance Claims
Schedule Number: 215
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: CKER
Registration district: 42/4
Household Members:
Name
Gordon Greenhill
Maurice Jan Desmond Greenhill born 1915
Sydney Ingram Davies

Name: Mabel M Plummer
Gordon Greenhill
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d

Name: Mabel Myra Plummer
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1238
Page: 2063

Sonya

Sonya Report 10 May 2019 12:27

Thank you all. I am trying to find any members of this family living now as there is to be a Greenhill family reunion. Is there a way as no census recent enough.. Alfred and Ellen Morgan were my G Grand parents..had a child in every port Alfred stopped at!

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 12:48

gordons son
Name: Maurice I D Greenhill
Mother's Maiden Name: [FP]lummer
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bromley
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1020

Name: Maurice I D Greenhill
Registration Date: Apr 1942
[May 1942]
[Jun 1942]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Gwenyth M Champion
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 935

he was leiutenant and she was from new zealand
in the England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
View England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976


Name: M I D Greenhill
Spouse's name: Gwenyth Mary Champion
Marriage Date: 25 Apr 1942
Marriage Place: Westminster, London, England

they went to new zealand
Name: Maurice Ian Desmond Greenhill
Electoral Year: 1963
District: New Plymouth
Region or Province: Taranaki

Name: Maurice Ian D Greenholl
Birth Date: abt 1915
Death Age: 61
Death Date: 13 Nov 1976
Burial Place: Taranaki, New Zealand
Cemetery: Tar




ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2019 12:49

In the 1939 record, Jean Greenhill (18 May 1922) is presumably Ernest & Alice's child.

I don't see her birth - possibly overseas?

Nor do I see any death or marriage which are definitely hers.

There are quite a number of UK deaths of women named Jean, born in 18 May 1922.

There's no mention on the 1939 register of a later change of surname, but I don't know if that definitely means she never married.

Alice and Ernest are together on various London area Electoral Rolls 1918 - 26.

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 13:17

his brother
Name: Alfred Henry Morgan Greenhill
Marriage Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1882
Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1910
Marriage Place: St Margaret, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father: Alfred Henry Greenhill
Spouse: Mable Alies Pooles Hastings
Register Type: Parish Register

son

DONALD
Last name GREENHILL
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Hastings
District Woolwich
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 2141

DONALD
Last name GREENHILL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1941
Registration month
MarriageFinder ™

DONALD GREENHILL married one of these people

Constance M Mitchell
Spouse's last name Mitchell
District Woolwich

possibly a son born 1946 in hammersmith

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 13:23

1939 for sister daisy
Brown household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
James E Brown 10 Dec 1896 Male Instrument Manufacturer & Mana Married 219 1
Gertrude E R Brown 25 Apr 1890 Female Instrument Making Cashier ? Married 219 2
Daisy Greenhill 25 Apr 1881 Female Housekeeper Single 219 3
Ref: RG101/2435D/016/3 Letter Code: EGBI

Name: Daisy Greenhill
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Date: Apr 1960
[May 1960]
[Jun 1960]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 214

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 13:28

brother reginald
Name: Reginald Greenhill
Spouse Surname: Edmonds
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 3608
Records on Page:
Name
Gertrude S Edmonds
Reginald Greenhill

Name: Reginald Greenhill
Death Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1891
Registration Date: Oct 1934
[Nov 1934]
[Dec 1934]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 747

Name: Gertrude Sophia Greenhill
Spouse's name: Reginald Greenhill
Death Date: 22 Nov 1946
Death Place: Guildford, Surrey, England

can't see any childrens births

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 13:38

brother percy
PERCIVAL J
Last name GREENHILL
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1880
Age 78
Death quarter 1
Death year 1958
District Hove

PERCIVAL JOHN
Last name GREENHILL
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1908
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


PERCIVAL JOHN GREENHILL married one of these people
Ethel Marian Lawrence

1939
Greenhill household
(5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ethel M Greenhill 02 May 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 10 1
Mabel M Greenhill 09 Feb 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 10 2
Marian J Hall (Greenhill) 26 Dec 1909 Female Secretary Single 10 3
Betty Greenhill 05 Apr 1912 Female Library Assistant Single 10 4
Nancy Greenhill 23 Dec 1914 Female Shorthand Typist Single 10 5

Name: Nancy Greenhill
Mother's Maiden Name: Lawrence
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 2231

Nancy Greenhill
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1914
Registration Date: Jan 1975
[Feb 1975]
[Mar 1975]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hove
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1258

Name: Marian Joan Greenhill
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1909
Baptism Date: 26 May 1910
Baptism Place: St John, Woolwich, Greenwich, England
Father: Percival John Greenhill
Mother: Ethel Marian Greenhill

Name: Marion J Greenhill
Registration Date: Jul 1941
[Aug 1941]
[Sep 1941]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hove
Inferred County: Sussex
Spouse: Eric T W Hall
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 775

e: Betty Greenhill
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1912
Baptism Date: 29 Sep 1912
Baptism Place: St John, Woolwich, Greenwich, England
Father: Percival John Greenhill
Mother: Ethel Marian Greenhill

Name: Betty Greenhill
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1912
Registration Date: Dec 1988
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 343

malyon

malyon Report 10 May 2019 13:42

Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
Cranston Alice Camberwell 1d 756

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 13:56

sister
NELLIE MAUD
Last name GREENHILL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1899
Registration month -

NELLIE MAUD GREENHILL married one of these people

Henry Shepherd, Frank Craig
District Woolwich

1939
Waller household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Charles J Waller 17 Mar 1910 Male Chemist Tar & Chemical Wo Married 36 1
Sybil H G Waller 05 Dec 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 36 2
Nellie M Craig 07 Mar 1876 Female Independent Means Widowed 36 3

NELLIE M
Last name CRAIG
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1875
Age 75
Death quarter 1
Death year 1950
District Bucklow

malyon

malyon Report 10 May 2019 14:09

Marriages Sep 1948

Gorman Edgar Greenhill Woolwich 5d 2561 view
Greenhill Jean Gorman Woolwich 5d 2561

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 14:19

sister florence
Name: Albert Ernest Murphy
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1839
Florence Mary K Greenhill

1911
Name: Florence Mary Kathleen Murphy
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Queenslown, Resident, Cork
Civil Parish: Ilford
Search Photos: Search for 'Ilford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 20 Ladysmith Avenue, Seven Kings, Ilford
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 3
Estimated Marriage Year: 1908
Registration district: Romford
Registration District Number: 191
Sub-registration district: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 9886
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Ernest Murphy 35
Florence Mary Kathleen Murphy 34
Terence Patrick Murphy 1
Elizabeth Murphy 73


son terence
Name: Terence P Murphy
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1910
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Trefrew, Barbican Hill
Residence Place: Looe, Cornwall, England
Occupation: Insurance Manager
Schedule Number: 15
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: WAKB
Inferred Spouse: Muriel L Murphy
Household Members:
Name
Terence P Murphy
Muriel L Murphy

Name: Terence Patrick Murphy
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1910
Registration Date: Oct 1983
[Nov 1983]
[Dec 1983]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Weston-super-Mare
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 1164

Name: Mariel L Hicks
Registration Date: Oct 1935
[Nov 1935]
[Dec 1935]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Liskeard
Inferred County: Cornwall
Spouse: Terence P Murphy
Volume Number: 3c
Page Number: 125

Terence Patrick MBE Murphy

in the London, England, Death Notices from The Times, 1982-1988
London, England, Death Notices from The Times, 1982-1988 No Image
Text-only collecti

Name: Terence Patrick MBE Murphy
Age: 73
Birth Year: 1910
Death Date: 25 Nov 1983
Published Date: 29 Nov 1983

daughter
MURPHY, MOLLY KATHLEEN GREENHILL
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 563
Name: Molly K Murphy
Estimated birth year: abt 1911
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Romford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 570

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 May 2019 14:30

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