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Helping a friend and I can't find William on any census. He married Ann Slater in 1824 St Pancras. He was a wdower and she a spinster.

Children

Matthew Maryan 1825/26/27 Brixton Lambeth Surrey.

When Matthew married Sarah Plummer his father is down as Richard Maryan.

I just can't find them on any census together and its driving me mad!!!

Hope a fresh pair of eyes may help please?

Mel

? from FMP

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Greenland Place, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

James Allday Male 44 1797 Middlesex, England
Harriot Allday Female 39 1802 Middlesex, England
James Allday Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Fanny Allday Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England
William Maryan Male 35 1806 - <<<<<<
Ann Maryan Female 38 1803 -
George Maryan Male 15 1826 -
William Maryan Male 13 1828 -
Matthew Maryan Male 11 1830 - <<<<<
James Maryan Male 9 1832 -
Eliza Maryan Female 6 1835 -
Ann Maryan Female 4 1837 Middlesex, England
Henry Maryan Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Greenland Place, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

James Allday Male 44 1797 Middlesex, England
Harriot Allday Female 39 1802 Middlesex, England
James Allday Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Fanny Allday Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England
>>William Maryan Male 35 1806 -
Ann Maryan Female 38 1803 -
George Maryan Male 15 1826 -
William Maryan Male 13 1828 -
Matthew Maryan Male 11 1830 -
James Maryan Male 9 1832 -
Eliza Maryan Female 6 1835 -
Ann Maryan Female 4 1837 Middlesex, England
Henry Maryan Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England

Not sure though as William's age is consistent on 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, Wandsworth Road Lavender Row, Clapham, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England

William Maryan Head Married Male 45 1806 Ground Workman Dover, Kent, England
Ann Maryan Wife Married Female 47 1804 Dress Maker Mitcham, Surrey, England
Henry Maryan Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Sarah Maryan Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Caroline Maryan Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Clapham, Surrey, England

Mother's maiden name on this for Caroline MARYAN, CAROLINE MESSENGER
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH AND CLAPHAM UNION Volume 04 Page 529

Births of some of the children.

MARYAN, ALFRED MESSENGER
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 191
MARYAN, HENRY MESSENGER
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in ST PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 218

This is the Matthew with father Richard, mother's name Sarah Hughes


First name(s) Matthew
Last name Maryan
Gender Male
Birth year 1828
Birth place -
Baptism year 1828
Baptism date 24 Aug 1828
Place Clapham
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Maryan
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name Hughes
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

O that looks good. I was going by the year my friend had on his tree. I had come across a child with mother maiden name Messenger but could'nt find a marriage for Maryan Messenger.

Richard's death possibly, from GRO MARYAN, RICHARD 59
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 150

and FMP

First name(s) Richard
Last name Maryan
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1843
Birth year -
Age at death -
Burial year 1843
Burial date 29 Jan 1843
Burial place Brixton, Surrey, England
Place Brixton
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991

That will be the couple from this marriage probably.

Surrey Marriages

First name(s) William
Last name Maryan
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Messenger
Marriage year 1833
Marriage date ? Apr 1833
Marriage place Newington St Peter Walworth
Groom's first name(s) William
Groom's last name Maryan
Bride's first name(s) Ann
Bride's last name Messenger
County Surrey

Richard and Sarah's daughter, died following year

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Maryan
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1831
Baptism date 27 Feb 1831
Place Clapham
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Maryan
Mother's first name(s) Sarah

I did find a Mathew Maryon marriage with father Richard.

Baptisms

Name: Matthew John Maryan
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Nov 1830
Baptism Place: Brixton St Matthew, Lambeth, England
Father: William Maryan
Mother: Ann Maryan
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: James Maryan
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1832
Baptism Place: Brixton St Matthew, Lambeth, England
Father: William Maryan
Mother: Ann Maryan
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: John Maryan
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1832
Baptism Place: Brixton St Matthew, Lambeth, England
Father: William Maryan
Mother: Ann Maryan
Register Type: Parish Registers

This is being linked on fmp to the marriage of Ann Slater. Note spelling of MaryOn not MaryAn.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

9, Stanhope Street West Side, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

William Maryon Head Married Male 65 1796 Builder & Undertaker Essex, England
Ann Maryon Wife Married Female 64 1797 - Essex, England
William Maryon Son Unmarried Male 24 1837 Carpenter Jersey




1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Perseverance Tavern, Charles Street, St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

William Maryon Head Married Male 55 1796 Carpenter & Builder Master Employing 1 Man & 1 Apprentice England
Ann Maryon Wife Married Female 53 1798 - England
William Maryon Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Apprentice St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Ann le Gros Servant Unmarried Female 15 1836 General Serv St Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands
Henry Pepin Visitor Unmarried Male 21 1830 Carpenter And Tailor St Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands
Philip Renouf Visitor Married Male 26 1825 Ship Master St Peter, Jersey, Channel Islands
Mary A Renouf Visitor Married Female 17 1834 - St Peter, Jersey, Channel Islands



1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Charles Street, St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

William Maryon Male 45 1796 carpenter England
Ann Maryon Female 40 1801 England
William Maryon Male 4 1837 Jersey, Channel Islands
Ann Maryon Female 15 1826 Jersey, Channel Islands


William
Last name Maryon
Name note -
Marriage year 1824
Marriage date 24 Oct 1824
Marriage place Saint Pancras
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Slater

I think I am looking for William Maryan and Ann and not Richard but I am getting all muddled now..........senior moment which are coming a lot more now........

Father richard mother Sarah on these

( edit she is a servant on 1851 Clapham but can't see her in 1841 census)
First name(s) Ann Maria
Last name Maryan
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 03 May 1835
Place Clapham
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Maryan
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name -



First name(s) Emily Eliza ( Died Brixton 1834)
Last name Maryan
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 06 Apr 1834
Place Clapham
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Maryan
Mother's first name(s) Sarah


First name(s) Elizabeth Susan
Last name Maryan
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1832
Baptism date 30 Sep 1832
Place Clapham
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Maryan
Mother's first name(s) Sarah

Bap.

Name: William Maryan
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
BIRTH 16th April<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism Date: 14 May 1828
Baptism Place: Clapham Holy Trinity, Lambeth, England
Father: William Maryan
Mother: Ann Messenger <<<<
Register Type: Parish Registers

Before the marriage. It is down as Willaim Maryan and Ann late Messenger

You can see how I am getting muddled can't you?

I have to do lunch now so will be back later.

Thanks all for your imput I shall have to go through all of this when I hav'nt got oh around.

Richard
Last name Maryan
Marriage year 1812
Marriage date 08 Jun 1812
Spouse's first name Sarah
Spouse's last name Hughes
Place Harlington
County Middlesex
Country England
Record set Greater London Marriage Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Maryan Matthew 1828 — 1828 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Clapham, Surrey, England

Maryan Richard 1822 — 1822 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Clapham, Surrey, England
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Maryan Ann Maria — — 1835 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Clapham, Surrey, England

Maryan Elizabeth Susan — — 1832 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Clapham, Surrey, England

Maryan Emily Eliza — — 1834 England Births & Baptisms

Maryan Sarah — — 1831 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Clapham, Surrey, England

parents ricchard and sarah

Matthew Maryan
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1850
Marriage Place: St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London, England
Father: Richard Maryan
Spouse: Sarah Plummer
Register Type: Parish Register

father a labourer, witness sarah maryann

on another childs marriage richard is a labourer

from ancestry
Richd Maryan

in the 1841 England Census

Name: Richd Maryan
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
Neighbors:
Piece: 1054
Book: 4
Folio: 25
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Richd Maryan 60
Sarah Maryan 50
Henry Maryan 21
Martha Maryan 13
Ann Maryan 6
Srul Shiner 30
John Bradshaw 24

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ConnieAnscombe Richard's daughter, Martha, should be his son, Matthew!
7 years ago



ConnieAnscombe This should be Matthew Maryan born 30 July 1828; baptism 24 Aug 1828 at Holy Trinity, Clapham.

could this be matthew john orn 1830

JOHN MATTHEW
Last name MARYON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1851
Registration month -

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JOHN MATTHEW MARYON married one of these people

Elizabeth Grace Eames, Elizabeth Hall, Lydia Sophia Rogers, Cordelia Masters
District Stepney
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 2
Volume as transcribed 2
Page number 590

1871
Princess Street, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, England
Matthew J Maryan Head - Male 40 1831 - Surrey, England
Cordelia Maryan Wife - Female 37 1834 - Middlesex, England
James G Maryan Son - Male 15 1856 - Middlesex, England
Alice Maryan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, England
Matthew Maryan Son - Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, EnglandPrincess Street, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, EnglandPrincess Street, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, England