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This is the only Betsy born in Bury in the right quarter of 1920 to fit the DOB shown in that Surrey death record:

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Shaw Betsy Holt Bury 8c 1116


BUT that's not Marlene's Betsy - she was born 15 April 1920, and died in Bury, unmarried:



Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Holt Betsy Shaw Bury 8c 1317
Shaw James Holt Bury 8c 1317


Betsy Shaw Junr.
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Betsy Shaw Junr.
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1920
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 4. Sussex Drive
Residence Place: Bury, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Bottle Winder
Schedule Number: 35
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: NGCQ
Registration district: 462-1
Inferred Father: James Shaw
Inferred Mother: Betsy Shaw
Household Members:
Name
James Shaw
Betsy Shaw
Betsy Shaw


Betsy Shaw
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Betsy Shaw
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1920
Registration Date: May 2001
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Register Number: B53B
District and Subdistrict: 0031B
Entry Number: 23

The Surrey death is also listed as Clarke and Berry-Clarke:



Betsy Berry-clarke
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Betsy Berry-clarke
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 30 May 1920
Registration Date: Oct 2005
Registration district: east Surrey
Inferred County: Surrey
Register Number: ESA8
District and Subdistrict: 755/1A
Entry Number: 46


Betsy Clarke
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Betsy Clarke
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 30 May 1920
Registration Date: Oct 2005
Registration district: east Surrey
Inferred County: Surrey
Register Number: ESA8
District and Subdistrict: 755/1A
Entry Number: 46

Marlene -

which bit of the info you have given us are you absolutely sure about? How have you worked back to her?

If you know the 1943 marriage is definitely your Betsy, then she wasn't born c1920.
In that case, as Shirley has said, you need the marriage cert to see her age and who her father was.

But if you know your Betsy was definitely born c1920, then she's not the person who married in 1943. And she wasn't born in Bury.

One has to wonder at times where people get their so called ‘info’

Possibly looking for the woman who died in Surrey?

No response from Marlene?

Can’t be the lady she is looking for as def not born 1920

Ann Bamford
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ann Bamford
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Bamford
Mother's name: Mary Bamford
Gender: Female
Where born: Pilkington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 2215
Folio: 183
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bamford 34
Mary Bamford 35
Ann Bamford 11
Catherine Bamford 8
Conelius Bamford 5
Mary Jane Bamford 3
John Bamford 11 Mo


BAMFORD, ANN mms BRADSHAW
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in BURY UNION LANCASHIRE Volume 21 Page 328

Ann Bamford
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Ann Bamford
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1839
Marriage Date: 5 May 1858
Marriage Place: Bury, St Paul, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Bury
Father: George Bamford, sawyer
Spouse: Thomas Walmesley [ father: John, gas man ]
Reference Number: GB127.L173/1/2/1

Alexander S Walmsley
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Alexander S Walmsley
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: 1859
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Heap
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Heywood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2842
Folio: 29
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Moore 22
Mary Moore 23
Thomas Walmsley 22
Ann Walmsley 21
Alexander S Walmsley 2
Ann Walmsley 1


WALMSLEY, ALEXANDER SEDDON mms BAMFORD
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 348

Seddon Walmsley
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Seddon Walmsley
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1859
Spouse: Eliza A Walmsley
Child: James Walmsley
Mary A Walmsley
George Walmsley
Birth Place: Bury, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bury
Residence Place: Bury, Bury, Lancashire, England
Sub Registration District: North Bury
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 3138
Folio: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
Seddon Walmsley 32 - finisher at bleach works
Eliza A Walmsley 29
James Walmsley 7
Mary A Walmsley 5
George Walmsley

Betsy Walmoley
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Betsy Walmoley
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Unsworth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Unsworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Howard Hill Hollins Unsworth
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Overlooker
Registration district: Bury
Registration District Number: 462
Sub-registration district: Whitefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 23557
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexanda Leddon Walmoley 52
Eliza Ann Walmoley 50
James Walmoley 27
George Walmoley 22
Ellen Walmoley 19
Betsy Walmoley 17
John Walmoley 13
Leddon Walmoley 11
Thomas Walmoley 9

Here you are

Howarth household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Walter Howarth 11 Jan 1890 Male Production Process Worker (Bleaching & Dyeing) Married 221 1
Betty Berry (Howarth) 20 Oct 1893 Female Cotton Weaver Married 221 2
Brenda Porter (Howarth) 26 Oct 1927 Female At School Single 221 3
Ref: RG101/4317J/015/6 Letter Code: NGBK
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Births Dec 1927
Howarth Brenda Walmsley Bury 8c 694


Deaths Jun 1979
BERRY BETSY 20OC1893 BURY 38 646

Betsy Walmsley
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Betsy Walmsley
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Alexanda S Walmsley
Mother: Eliza Ann Walmsley
Birth Place: Unsworth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Unsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Unsworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Whitefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 3651
Folio: 65
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexanda S Walmsley 42
Eliza Ann Walmsley 40
James Walmsley 17
George Walmsley 12
Ellen Walmsley 9
Betsy Walmsley 7
John Walmsley 3
Seddon Walmsley 1


Alexander Leddon Walmsby
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Alexander Leddon Walmsby
[Alexander Seddon Walmsley]
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 25
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1858
Marriage Date: 27 Oct 1883
Marriage Place: Stand, All Saints, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Stand
Father: Thomas Walmsby, merchant
Spouse: Eliza Ann Kay [ father - Samuel Kay, miner ]
Reference Number: GB127.L94/1/3/6

Betsy Howarth
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Betsy Howarth
[Betsy Berry]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1893
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 334 Hollins Lane, Hollins
Residence Place: Bury, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Schedule Number: 221
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: NGBK
Registration district: 462-1
Inferred Spouse: Walter Howarth
Inferred Children: Brenda Howarth
Household Members:
Name
Walter Howarth - 11 Jan 1890
Betsy Howarth
Brenda Howarth - 26 Oct 1927 [ later Porter]



Brenda Porter
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Brenda Porter
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1927
Registration Date: Jan 1996
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Register Number: C47B
District and Subdistrict: 0031C
Entry Number: 161

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WALMSLEY, BETSY mms KAY
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in BURY, BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 633

Ah so she was older than you thought

Marriages Sep 1916
Howarth Walter Walmsley Bury 8c 1009
Walmsley Betsy Howarth Bury 8c 1009

Closed records are simply not accessible

The marriage from LancsBMD has additional info compared with the posts above

BERRY Harold HOWARTH Betsy Unsworth, Methodist Church, Hollins Lane Bury AP20/5/28
BERRY Harold WALMSLEY Betsy Unsworth, Methodist Church, Hollins Lane Bury AP20/5/28
HOWARTH Betsy BERRY Harold Unsworth, Methodist Church, Hollins Lane Bury AP20/5/28
WALMSLEY Betsy BERRY Harold Unsworth, Methodist Church, Hollins Lane Bury AP20/5/28

If that is her death that I posted then her record won’t be opened as the register wouldn’t have been updated to that date

Entries are closed for people born 1918 or later unless they died before 1992. The Register was a working document until then.

The National Archives, & other organisations such as Ancestry & Findmypast, are trying to match entries & death indexes registered since 1992.

Often it easier to match male names than female ones, particularly if the female had married.
My mother (1919- 2003) did not have her entry opened on FMP until I submitted a copy of her DC.
My father (1923- 2006) had his entry opened without any intervention from me. As a singleton, no one else is likely to have bothered.

Betsy Howarth or Haworth was definitely born in Bury about 1920,. she only married in 1943 also in Bury so I thought she might have been on the 1939 register as a 19 year old either with her family or by herself. Thank you all for trying to find her.

[ Deleted wrong info, in light of later discovery that the Betsy who married in 1943 was nee Walmsley ]