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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Sep 2019 17:37

Please delete your e-mail address

Not allowed on the boards for reasons of security.

Barbara

Barbara Report 1 Sep 2019 17:30

Thanks again it was kind of you all. Robin

Barbara

Barbara Report 1 Sep 2019 17:29

It is Robin Thorne again and you have all come up trumps with the correct name which is Rhoda M Yates as some of you have named her. Just for interest my Grandmother died in 1939 leaving my Grandfather Charles Alfred Thorne to live until he was 95. I can confirm the address as I have a copy of his will. I can now investigate onwards how she become with out marriage a Thorne - must be a tale there that I will not get to the bottom of!! As I recall she was not a lady who would have married or have any interest in men. The household was actually Thorne because the Fry side was one of my aunt who did not have children. In the past this site by the way allowed me to trace my half brother in America that I had no idea he existed. Just realised have been doing this under my wife's account. If anyone wants to contact me I am at [email protected]. ;-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2019 21:40

Would perhaps be below, for Rhoda.

Chris :)

Deceased name Rhoda Muriel Yates
Date of Burial 10/03/1960
Gender Female
Age 48 Years
Date of death Unknown
Location Twickenham Cemetery
Section N
Grave J26

https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(ajwftk5k5pjentt2fohfubu1))/Search.aspx

Choccy

Choccy Report 30 Aug 2019 21:38


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995

Name: Rhoda Muriel Yates

Death Date: 3 Mar 1960

Death Place: Middlesex, England

Probate Date: 22 Apr 1960

Probate Registry: London, England


of 179 Lyndhurst Avenue, Twickenham, Spinster, died 3rd March 1960.
Probate London 22nd April to Barclays Bank Ltd
Effects - £383 9s 11d

Choccy

Choccy Report 30 Aug 2019 21:21


She is supposedly single,


1939 Register


179 Lyndhurst Avenue, Twickenham M.B., Middlesex, England

Fry household
(5 people)


Frederick W S Fry 14 Jul 1894 Male Clerk Ministry Of Labour Married 85 1
Alice H M Fry 21 May 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 85 2
Alfred C Thorne 15 May 1869 Male Book Closer Retired Married 85 3
>>>>Rhodda M Yates 13 May 1911 Female Skewer Boot Shoe Single 85 4

The record for this person is officially closed.


Dea

Dea Report 30 Aug 2019 21:13

Looks like it??


Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
THORNE Rhoda M Hellen Devonport 5b 520 Scan available - click to view


?? parents:

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
Hellen Elizabeth E.Stonehouse 5b 457 Scan available - click to view
THORNE John Thomas E. Stonehouse 5b 457 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

Choccy

Choccy Report 30 Aug 2019 21:05

?? 179 Lyndhurst Avenue, Twickenham


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965


Name: Alfred C Thorne

Year: 1960

County or Borough: Twickenham

Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham West

Street address: 179

Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1060

Also living there - Alice H M Fry, Annie McDonnell, Francis J McDonnell and Rhoda M Yates



(could this be 'Queenie'?}

Deaths Mar 1960

YATES Rhoda M 48 Middlesex S. 5f 31

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2019 19:40

If you can tell us the address, something might come up!...

Chris :)

Barbara

Barbara Report 30 Aug 2019 17:18

You have all been helpful about Queenie. As I have said I have taken the details from a very very extended tree which was done by a relation who died in her sixties. I can trace most of the meagers which was a surname passed on as a Christian Name. I am coming to the conclusion that Queenie was taken in as a family member as an act of helpfulness. I do thank you all and as I say I have a tree of all my other relations which runs back to the 1700.

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Aug 2019 17:06

Robin if Queenie lived in the same house as your grandfather, it may be possible to see who she was by looking at the address on 1939 register or erolls, if you would like to give your grandfather's name and the address someone will look?

Barbara

Barbara Report 30 Aug 2019 17:00

Thank you very much for all the replies about Queenie. As has been suggested that could be her nickname. I know that she lived in the same house as my Grandfather who died aged 95 and I can only assume she was taken into the family as a type of sister to my aunt. The reason I have the death ,is a lady who died a long while ago did a massive search of all my relations which have been proved to be right and I have not included dates which are marked about. Thanks again for all the replies. Robin Thorne

Barbara

Barbara Report 30 Aug 2019 17:00

Thank you very much for all the replies about Queenie. As has been suggested that could be her nickname. I know that she lived in the same house as my Grandfather who died aged 95 and I can only assume she was taken into the family as a type of sister to my aunt. The reason I have the death ,is a lady who died a long while ago did a massive search of all my relations which have been proved to be right and I have not included dates which are marked about. Thanks again for all the replies. Robin Thorne

Barbara

Barbara Report 30 Aug 2019 17:00

Thank you very much for all the replies about Queenie. As has been suggested that could be her nickname. I know that she lived in the same house as my Grandfather who died aged 95 and I can only assume she was taken into the family as a type of sister to my aunt. The reason I have the death ,is a lady who died a long while ago did a massive search of all my relations which have been proved to be right and I have not included dates which are marked about. Thanks again for all the replies. Robin Thorne

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2019 23:06

I think we need Robin to come back and explain where the date of death and approx year of birth come from.


[Incidentally, I have an Elizabeth in my tree, born 1895, who was known as Queenie.]

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Aug 2019 20:36

This Queenie also died on 3rd March 1960 according to her probate. She was a spinster.

QUEENIE C
Last name HOOPER
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1907
Age 53
Death quarter 1
Death year 1960
District Paddington

Dea

Dea Report 28 Aug 2019 20:36

This is her in 1939:


Herbert H Thorne's life in 1939
Willoughby Farm Langley Lane, Horsham R.D., Sussex, England

Herbert H Thorne 09 Jun 1901 Male Dairy Farmer Married 86 1
Florence B Thorne 12 Feb 1913 Female Assisting Husband A Fa? Married 86 2
~??? Thorne 01 Aug 1898 Female Poultry Farmer Single 86 3 ....................... (DOROTHY MAY !!!).................
Bessie Jenner 11 May 1887 Female Housekeeper Unpaid Widowed 86 4
Alfred H Jenner 23 Jan 1923 Male Junior Horticultural Clerk Single 86 5

Dea x

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Aug 2019 20:05


1911 Census For England & Wales

Adur Lodge Shipley Horsham, Shipley, Sussex, England

Edwin Thorne Head Married Male 42 1869 Estate Foreman Horningsham Wilts
Bertha Thorne Wife Married Female 40 1871 Housewife Horningsham Wilts
>>Dorothy May Thorne Daughter Single Female 12 1899 School Dalham Suffolk
Herbert Henry Thorne Son Single Male 9 1902 - Dalham Suffolk
Cecil Ruther Thorne Son Single Male 5 1906 - Dalham Suffolk
Hilda Ellen Thoubridge Servant Single Female 16 1895 Domestic Servant Shorburyness Essex

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Aug 2019 20:02

Could this be Queenie? This one died on the 3rd March 1960. I have an Aunt Dorothy who is known as Queenie.

DOROTHY M
Last name THORNE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1960
District Horsham
County Sussex
Volume 5H
Page 706


Her probate reads of Rose Cottage, Wylye nr Warminster spinster died 3rd Mar 1960 at the Crawley Hospital Sussex Administration LONDON to Herbert Henry Thorne farmer.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2019 19:22

Yes, you're right, GG - not Robin's Queenie.