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Densirl

Densirl Report 2 Nov 2019 18:08

Trying to find names of my grt grt grandfather William collett born 1796 died 1874 ,married Elizabeth Osbourne in London ,looking for kin ,any help would be great ,thankyou x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2019 18:15

Born where?

Married when?

What research have you done?

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 18:20

Is this your family - you haven't given us a census to work off, they could have been living anywhere.

For an idea of where born etc

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Back Lane, Old Brentford, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Collett Head - Male 74 1797 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Collett Wife - Female 65 1806 - Colnbrook, Buckinghamshire, England
John Collett Son - Male 18 1853 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Sarah Collett Daughter - Female 21 1850 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
COLLETT, JOHN OSBORNE
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 35

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Nov 2019 18:24

Their marriage?


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William Collett

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Collett
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1830
Marriage Place: All Saints, Isleworth, Hounslow, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Osborn
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 18:25

William said to be born Wiltshire on this census!

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brichfield Yard, Isleworth, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Collett Head Married Male 54 1797 Farmer & Sawyers Lab Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Collett Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Colnbrook, Buckinghamshire, England
Thomas Collett Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Servant Sawyers Lab Isleworth, Middlesex, England
William Collett Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Bricklayers Lab Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Henry Collett Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Collett Daughter - Female 12 1839 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Susan Collett Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Martha Collett Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Sarah Collett Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
COLLETT, MARTHA OSBORNE

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 18:31

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brentford End, Isleworth, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Collett Head Married Male 66 1795 General Labourer Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Collett Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Martha Collett Daughter - Female 17 1844 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Sarah Collett Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
John Collett Son - Male 8 1853 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
John Harriss Son In Law Married Male 26 1835 Labourer Garden Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Harriss Daughter In Law Married Female 22 1839 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
John Harriss Son - Male 0 1861 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 18:32

Not born in County as per 1841 census

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brentford End, Isleworth, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Collett Male 40 1801 -
Elizabeth Collett Female 30 1811 -
William Collett Male 7 1834 Middlesex, England
Thomas Collett Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England
Henry Collett Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Collett Female 2 1839 Middlesex, England
Susan Collett Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England
Lydia Osborne Female 13 1828 -
Margaret Teart Female 50 1791 -
Elizabeth Davis Female 20 1821 -
Elizabeth Bock Female 30 1811 -

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 18:36

Original of the marriage posted by MargaretM shows witnesses to be
Amelia Collett and Robert Avins.

William a Bachelor and Elizabeth a Spinster

Both said to be "of this Parish" at time of marriage

Densirl

Densirl Report 2 Nov 2019 19:14

Thankyou all ,that is great ,but still trying to find Williams siblings and his father ,or have I missed it ?? xx

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 19:30

You haven't missed it, but not found as yet

1841 census says not born in Middlesex
1851 says born Wiltshire
1861/1871 say born Isleworth, Middlesex

the early marriages Parish registers don't give names of Fathers or occupations

Witnesses may help - Amelia Collett no doubt a relative - but Mother, sister, sister in law?

Sometimes if you follow family through the census returns you might find a parent / sibling living with them which helps


greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 19:36

There is an 1831 marriage of an Amelia Collett to William Harmsworth. Nothing to confirm yours though on the record.

One witness is a William Collett. The other Susannah ? Lack, Lock

William Collett and Amelia have both signed.

Unfortunately on the William Collett marriage it looks to me as though the register entry has been completed in one hand, that of the vicar so can't compare signatures.

View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: Amelia Collett
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 23 Oct 1831
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Hanwell, Ealing, England
Spouse: William Harmsworth
Register Type: Parish Register

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 19:37

??

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Grove, Hanwell, Brentford, Middx

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Harmsworth Head Married Male 45 1806 Labourer Maer, Hampshire, England
Amelia Harmsworth Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Henry Harmsworth Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Labourer Hanwell, Middlesex, England
John Harmsworth Son - Male 13 1838 - Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Charles Harmsworth Son - Male 11 1840 - Hanwell, Middlesex, England
James Harmsworth Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Hannah Harmsworth Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Hanwell, Middlesex, England

1841 census shows Amelia born in County.
Address is Highland Cottage, HAnwell
Children - HArriot 8, Henry 7, Maria 5, John 4, Charles 3

malyon

malyon Report 2 Nov 2019 19:47

William Collett
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
William Collett
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
03 May 1796
Christening Date (Original):
03 MAY 1796
Christening Place:
St Sampson's, Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Collett
Mother's Name:
Ann

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 19:53

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSRN-RMF - unable to copy transcript

A William Collett baptised 3 May 1796 at St Sampson's, Cricklade, Wiltshire - would fit 1851 census born Cricklade and 1841 - not born Middlesex.

Parents Thomas and Ann

If he moved as a young child to Isleworth he may have thought that was where he was born or whoever spoke to the enumerator may have thought he was born locally

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 20:06

??

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 No Image

Name: Maria Collett
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 Jan 1801
Baptism Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Father: Thomas Collett
Mother: Ann Collett
FHL Film Number: 597916

malyon

malyon Report 2 Nov 2019 20:06

hannah mother could be ann

John Collett
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
John Collett
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
30 Jun 1799
Christening Date (Original):
30 JUN 1799
Christening Place:
St Sampson's, Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Mother's Name:
Hannah Collett

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 20:13

A Tree on Ancestry - the Harmsworth Family tree - has

Thomas Collett b 1770 baptised St Anne, Soho 1770, died Wiltshire

Married Ann Phoenicia Stamp (1769-1837) Wiltshire

Ann Phoenicia Stamp baptised 1796 St George, Hanover Square, Middx, died 1837 Isleworth

children -
William 1796-1874
Maria 1801 - ?
Amelia 1804 - 1884

Make sure you have your own proof before believing Ancestry trees - some are awful, others appear to be well researched with documentation attached.

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 22:28

Doesn't look at though Ann Phoenicia Stamp was Mother to the children unless she and Thomas didn't marry until much later !!

Or the Ann shown as Mother on the baptism records is another Ann.

this is a transcript only

Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Collett
Birth year -
Marital status W
Residence Corsham
Marriage year 1831
Marriage date 14 Jun 1831
Place Corsham
County Wiltshire
Country England
By licence or by banns L
Spouse's first name(s) Ann Phenicia
Spouse's last name Stamp
Spouse's marital status S
Spouse's residence Corsham
Witness 1 E Burtton
Witness 2 Frances H Falkner
Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
© Findmypast 2017

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Nov 2019 08:00

Below from google search...

Chris :)

[PDF] Corsham - Wiltshire OPC's
https://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk › Items › Corsham
Collett. Thomas. Widr. Stamp. Anne Phenicia. Licence. 1831. 18-Jun.


http://www.collettfamilyhistory.net/Part-22-The-Somerset-and-Wiltshire-Line-Rev.11.htm

22M1 THOMAS COLLETT

(above from google search, on Family, Thomas reference)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2019 08:45

Jus for the record, this is the married daughter Elizabeth "Harriss" as in 1861 census:

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
Collett Elizabeth Kensington 1a 162
Harris John Kensington 1a 162

Birth of their child John:

HARRIS, JOHN mms COLLETT
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 43

HARRIS, JOHN mms COLLETT
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in OF ISLEWORTH IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX Volume 03A Page 44 Occasional Copy: A

Both entries will be the same child. Only the Brentford one appears on the image of the GRO Index page.