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Unknown Report 16 Nov 2019 16:05

Hi All,

I am a newbe on here doing my own family history but a friend has come to stay and has asked me if I can get help with one of her ancestors,

Her name is Fanny Young, DOB 15th Sept 1878 and lived in Cowes, Isle of Wight,
We think her maiden name was Taylor but cant find anymore info, before or after, siblings etc,

Any help would be great
Thanks

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2019 16:22

Below is usually helpful, things Isle of Wight...

https://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/

Chris :)

(do you mean Maiden Name of her Mother was Taylor?)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 16:27

For our reference:


Fanny Young
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Fanny Young
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1878
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 40. St Andrews Street
Residence Place: Cowes, Isle of Wight, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 252
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: EPAK
Registration district: 93-1
Household Members:
Name
Dorothy B M [ later changed to Beatrice M D] Kinchenton - 9 Sept 1911
Fanny Young

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 16:28

Dorothy was Fanny's daughter:

Dorothy B M Young
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Dorothy B M Young
Mother's Maiden Name: Taylor
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 1063


Dorothy B M Young
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Dorothy B M Young
Registration Date: Oct 1935
[Nov 1935]
[Dec 1935]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Inferred County: Isle of Wight
Spouse: George J Kinchenton
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1708

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 16:31

So possibly Fanny's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Taylor Fanny Eliza Alverstoke 2b 1062
Young Frederick Alverstoke 2b 1062


Or this one ??

Fanny Eliza Taylor
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Fanny Eliza Taylor
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Christchurch
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 1243
Records on Page:
Name
Fanny Eliza Taylor
William Henry Young

EDIT:
No, not the 1896 marriage.
In 1911 William Henry is alone with their children, and Fanny's name is scored out, with the note "lunatic [7 ?] years"

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:32

Have you tried looking for a marriage on freebmd?

Start with the most obvious record - then progress from there

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:34

In Jun 1893, she would have been 14

This is possibly more feasible, in view of the district

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Lighting Ellen Christchurch 2b 1243
PHILPOTT John Thomas Christchurch 2b 1243
Taylor Fanny Eliza Christchurch 2b 1243
Young William Henry Christchurch 2b 1243

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:37

Confirming that of the possible pairings above, Philpott m. Lighting

Name: John Thomas Philpott
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Dean, Hampshire
Civil Parish: Withyam
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Buckhurst Gardens Withyham
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Gardener
Registration district: East Grinstead
Registration District Number: 75
Sub-registration district: Withyham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 4975
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thomas Philpott 54
Ellen Philpott 44
Reginald Thomas Philpott 18
Edward Clement Philpott 13
Robert Ansell Philpott 11
Olive Bensley 83

No proof without the daughter's birth cert that the marriage is relevant

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:41

Can't - at present - see her in 1901 or 1911

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2019 16:41

Below doesn't relate as well does she?...(as she came up on link!)

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Young Mabel A Taylor I.Wight 2b 1023


1911 YOUNG
Dorothy Beatrice May TAYLOR Cowes C52/E436

1913 YOUNG
Mabel Alice TAYLOR, TRIVETT Cowes C54/E244


1897 TRIVETT Harry TAYLOR Fanny Jane St John, Northwood With Registrar COE32.4/435

1909 YOUNG Ernest William TRIVETT, TAYLOR Fanny Jane Register Office, Newport With Registrar RO57/32


(if him below)

Death
1936 YOUNG Ernest William 57 years 1878 - 1879 Newport N59/E172


1875 TAYLOR
Fanny Jane PRIOR Cowes C23/E322


Birth
TAYLOR, FANNY JANE PRIOR
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 521


Deaths Sep 1955 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
YOUNG Fanny J 79 I.Wight 6b 602

1955 YOUNG Fanny Jane 79 years 1875 - 1876 North-West NW6/E105


1935 KINCHENTON George John YOUNG Dorothy Beatrice May St Mary, Cowes With Registrar COE16.4/179

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 16:50

Probably not the 1896 marriage.

In 1911 William Henry is alone with their children, and Fanny's name is scored out, with the note "lunatic [7 ?] years"

William Henry Young
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Henry Young
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Christchurch, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Whitsbury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Whitsbury Nr Breamore, Salisbury
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Fordingbridge
Registration District Number: 97
Sub-registration district: Fordingbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 5895
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Young 42
Charley Young 13
Doris Young 11
Maud Young 6
Alfred Young 3
Daisy Young 5/12
Alice Earney 44 - housekeeper


Fanny E Younge
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Fanny E Younge
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Spouse: William Henry Younge
Birth Place: Rockland, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Rockbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Village
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Fordingbridge
Sub-registration district: Fordingbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 1049
Folio: 55
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members:
Name Age
William Younge 75
Sarah Anne Younge 67
William Henry Younge 31
Charles William Younge 3
Fanny E Younge 31
Doris Alice 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:51

??????????

YOUNG, IRWIN DAVID TAYLOR TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 572

YOUNG, LILIAN CONSTANCE TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 607

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:53

Name: Irwin David T Young
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1910
Registration Date: Jan 1984
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1355

Name: Irwin Young
Age in 1911: 3/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Grand Child
Birth Place: Ashley Road, Ryde
Civil Parish: Ryde
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 1 Chichester Cottages, Ashley Road, Ryde, I Of Wight
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Registration District Number: 93
Sub-registration district: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 285
Piece: 5722
Household Members:
Name Age
Flora Taylor 52
Nelsie Taylor 28
Daisy Young 22
Irwin Young 3/12
David Young 31
Reuben Taylor 18
William G Taylor 11
Ronald Taylor 4
Reginald Taylor 4

May have no connection whatsoever. Young and Taylor are very common surnames

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 16:57

???

Fanny Eliza Taylor
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Fanny Eliza Taylor
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Relationship: Housemaid
Birth Year: 1871
Birth Place: Fareham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Residence Place: Brockhurst and Elson, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, Institution or Vessel: Fort Brockhurst and Fort Elson with Married Quarters and St Thomas´s Terrace
Neighbors:
Piece: 881
Folio: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Wynne Apperley 48
Constance Mary Apperley 36
William Herbert W Apperley 6
Mary Lyons Montgomery 58
Ann Sturmy 52
Fanny Eliza Taylor 20

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Nov 2019 16:59

According to a tree on Ancestry (not always reliable) Lilian's father was named Frederick

Your friend needs the daughter's birth cert to confirm parent's names and father's occupation

A PDF version is cheaper than a hard copy

Order it at:-

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 17:05

The Fanny who married William Henry is, in any case, too old - unless the DOB given in 1939 is wrong.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 17:11

Re the Young/Trivett births posted by Chris:


Fanny Jane Young
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Fanny Jane Young
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cowes, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Cowes
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Solent Wharf House, Medina Rd, W Cowes
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Registration District Number: 93
Sub-registration district: Cowes
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 5692
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest William Young 31 - Pimlico, London
Fanny Jane Young 34
Harry Trevett 12 - Cowes

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 17:16

Harry Trivett
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Trivett
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Harry Trivett
Mother: Fanny F Trivett
Birth Place: Isle of Wight, Cowes
Civil Parish: Cowes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Sub-registration district: Cowes
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 1017
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Trivett 34
Fanny F Trivett 27
Harry Trivett 2

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 17:18


Fanny Jane Taylor
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Fanny Jane Taylor
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1876
Marriage Date: 13 Mar 1897
Marriage Place: Northwood, Hampshire, England
Father: Edward Taylor
Spouse: Harry Trivett
FHL Film Number: 1470883

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2019 17:18

Too many Fannys, Youngs, Taylors, etc.

I agree, you need Dorothy's birth cert.