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John Bailey born 1803 Coventry

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beanie

beanie Report 30 Nov 2019 15:10

Hello, does anybody know who John Bailey, born 1803, Coventry, living in the Rugby area on the census, married please? I have a first name, Harriet and children:

Betsy (Born 1824)
Ann (Born 1827)
Jane (Born 1830)
William (Born 1833)
Sarah (Born 1834)
Thomas (Born 1836)
Rebecca Born 1838)
Charles (Great, Great Grandfather) (Born 1839(
Harriett (Born 1841)
John (Born 1846)

Thanks ever so much,

Benjamin-Elijah.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 15:24

1841 for ref
Long Lawford, Newbold on Avon, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
John Bailey Male 38 1803 -
Charlotte Bailey Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
Betsy Bailey Female 17 1824 -
Ann Bailey Female 14 1827 -
Jane Bailey Female 11 1830 -
John Bailey Male 9 1832 -
William Bailey Male 8 1833 -
Sarah Bailey Female 6 1835 Warwickshire, England
Thomas Bailey Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England
Rebecca Bailey Female 3 1838 Warwickshire, England
Charles Bailey Male 1 1840 Warwickshire, England
Harriet Bailey Female 0 1841 Warwickshire, England
Richard Chmaberlain Male 15 1826 -

beanie

beanie Report 30 Nov 2019 15:37

Thanks for this, I wonder if her maiden name was Chamberlain? I'll do a search on GR and Ancestry.

Thanks.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 15:39

If this is them in the 1851 census then John was born Northamptonshire:-

Household Members
Lawford Hill, Rugby, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Bailey Head Married Male 48 1803 Ag Lab Preston, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Warwickshire, England
Thomas Bailey Son - Male 14 1837 Ag Lab Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Rebecca Bailey Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Charles Bailey Son - Male 11 1840 Plow Boy Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Harriett Bailey Daughter - Female 9 1842 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Jabez Bailey Son - Male 8 1843 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Eliza Bailey Daughter - Female 6 1845 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Clara Bailey Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England

The 1841 census says that John was NOT born in county of census (that is NOT born Warwickshire).

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 15:43

Perhaps they never actually married.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Nov 2019 15:47

Why do you say his wife’s name was Harriet?

It wasn’t if the censuses are accurate

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 15:50

johns birthplace in 1851
Lawford Hill, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
John Bailey Head Married Male 48 1803 Ag Lab Preston, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Warwickshire, England
Thomas Bailey Son - Male 14 1837 Ag Lab Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Rebecca Bailey Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Charles Bailey Son - Male 11 1840 Plow Boy Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Harriett Bailey Daughter - Female 9 1842 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Jabez Bailey Son - Male 8 1843 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Eliza Bailey Daughter - Female 6 1845 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Clara Bailey Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 15:53

1861
Village, Long Lawford, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
John Bailey Head Married Male 57 1804 Grocer & Farmer 20 Acres Preston, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 60 1801 Farmers Wife Warwickshire, England
Sarah Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Charles Bailey Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Harriett Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Farmers Daughter Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Jabez Bailey Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, EnglandEngland

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 15:55

1861 census:-

Household Members
Village, Long Lawford, Rugby, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Bailey Head Married Male 57 1804 Grocer & Farmer 20 Acres Preston, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 60 1801 Farmers Wife Warwickshire, England
Sarah Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Charles Bailey Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Harriett Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Farmers Daughter Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Jabez Bailey Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Nov 2019 15:57

There’s a marriage in Northamptonshire in 1823 on FMP which might be worth looking at

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 16:01

JUST DELETED AND RE-POSTED AS THERE WAS A LOT OF UNNECESSARY INFORMATION ON THE LAST POST.THIS IS THE MARRIAGE:-

First name(s) JOHN
Last name BAILEY
Marriage year 1823
Marriage day 18
Marriage month Sep
Marriage place PRESTON CAPES
Parish Preston Capes
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Hardman
Spouse's title -
Spouse's parish Preston Capes
Event Type Marriage
By Banns or licence Banns
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Record set Northamptonshire Marriages

Kath, x

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 16:02


Name:
Mother's Maiden Surname:

BAILEY, CHARLES WESLEY

edit

Charles Wesley
Last name Bailey
Age 30
Birth year 1840
Residence Gladstone ST
Father's first name(s) John ---------------
Father's last name Bailey
Marriage year 1870
Marriage date 30 May 1870
Spouse's first name(s) Harriet Collerson
Spouse's last name Rounds
Spouse's age 30
Spouse's residence Gladstone St
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Rounds
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, St George
County Leicestershire
Country England

beanie

beanie Report 30 Nov 2019 16:08

Aww thanks everyone, so you are all confident it was Charlotte Hardman and NOT Harriet? :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 16:12

is the above birth record your man

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 16:18

marraige of jabez

Jabez
Last name Bailey
Sex Male
Age 21
Birth year 1843
Marital status bachelor
Residence Long Lawford
Occupation Labourer
Marriage year 1864
Marriage date 12 Apr 1864
Denomination Anglican
Place Newbold-On-Avon
Spouse's first name(s) Caroline
Spouse's last name Underwood
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth year 1843
Spouse's marital status spinster
Spouse's residence Newbold on Avon
Spouse's occupation Dress Maker
Father's name John Bailey ------
Father's occupation Farmer -----
Spouse's father's name William Underwood
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
By licence or by banns Banns
First witness Charles Bailey -----
Second witness Harriet Bailey ------
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0176/15

baptisms

Sarah
Last name Bailey
Gender Female
Birth year 1834
Birth place -
Baptism year 1836
Baptism date 28 Aug 1836
Place Rugby
County Warwickshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Bailey
Mother's first name(s) Charlote
Mother's last name Hardman

Thomas
Last name Bailey
Gender Male
Birth year 1836
Birth place -
Baptism year 1836
Baptism date 28 Aug 1836
Place Rugby
County Warwickshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Bailey
Mother's first name(s) Charlote
Mother's last name Hardman

malyon

malyon Report 30 Nov 2019 16:31

Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)
Bailey Charlotte 91 Rugby 6d 321

malyon

malyon Report 30 Nov 2019 16:38

Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
BAILEY John 68 Rugby 6d 283

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 17:23

The 1871 census:-

In the Village (Hucksters Shop), Newbold on Avon, Rugby, Warwickshire,

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Bailey Head - Male 68 1803 - Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Bailey Wife - Female 70 1801 - Warwickshire, England

He's with Charlotte in every census and we've found a marriage that looks right. Where did you get the name Harriet from for his wife?

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Nov 2019 23:07

Birth registrations, from - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp.

The site is free to search, you just need to register

Note various first and surname spellings

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BAILEY, CHARLES WESLEY HARDMAN
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in THE RUGBY UNION Volume 16 Page 410

BAILEY, HARRIOT HARDIN
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 437

BAILEY, JAVIS HARDMAN
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 480

BAILEY, ELIZA HARDIMAN
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 462

beanie

beanie Report 17 Dec 2019 06:17

Thank you so much again folks :-) You're all life savers, regardless of whether I go off course or one or two of us do sometimes, we bring each other back onto the right page!

Cheers!